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Chemisse

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45. I would order him held in a juvenile detention center until he is 18.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 08:03 PM
Oct 2012

And I would do my best to make sure he had the best conditions, so he could grow up to become as emotionally healthy as possible (as opposed to going into criminal-in-training). If legally permissible, I would have him psychologically evaluated before release, and make sure he had plenty of family or community support afterward.

A 12-year-old simply is not equipped to make adult decisions, and should not be treated like an adult when he makes the wrong one. There is a reason children are supposed to have a parent or guardian guiding their choices until age 18.

As far as the victim's family and their desire for revenge, that is unfortunate for them to be caught up in such misery. It must be hellacious. But yielding to them is not much better than just letting the child go with a lynch mob.

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The prosecutors must have gotten a good chuckle over how easy it was to trick a 12 year old. Chemisse Oct 2012 #1
trick? doubt he was tricked into anything -his lawyer made sure he understood was he was agreeing to leftyohiolib Oct 2012 #2
A 12-year-old is simply not equipped to make life-impacting decisions. Chemisse Oct 2012 #3
I think the life impacting decision was made when Heather MC Oct 2012 #4
wow, the downright fascist sentiments expressed in this subthread are amazing. Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #6
Or maybe we could let them start to vote at 12! midnight Oct 2012 #9
And drink and drive and have sex and obviously sign binding contracts. Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #10
why underestimate a 12 year olds ability to be evil. Heather MC Oct 2012 #20
so, another vote for execution of 12 year olds? Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #22
So then, should sexual activity with 12yr olds be legalized? Hugabear Oct 2012 #24
Isn't that approximately what David letterman suggested about the Palin kid? Maybe it was 14, 24601 Oct 2012 #37
I agree with you completely Bo Nov 2012 #46
????????????????????/ greiner3 Oct 2012 #16
"A 12-year-old is simply not equipped to make life-impacting decisions" do you mean like murder leftyohiolib Oct 2012 #12
No, what they mean is that the physical structures of the brain dealing with future consequences Occulus Oct 2012 #21
it has to be more than that cause some commit murder and some do not- otherwise leftyohiolib Oct 2012 #25
And he didn't make a very good decision, did he? Chemisse Oct 2012 #40
Great. A twelve year old is able to understand all these consequence. How do you figure? .... marble falls Oct 2012 #26
The questions I have is: christx30 Oct 2012 #34
You're right about one thing. The dead person will still be dead. But there's no reason .. marble falls Oct 2012 #38
So basically you are talking about revenge. Chemisse Oct 2012 #41
So should christx30 Oct 2012 #44
I would order him held in a juvenile detention center until he is 18. Chemisse Oct 2012 #45
Well said. nt cstanleytech Nov 2012 #47
Paul Henry Gingerich's Case Background Judi Lynn Oct 2012 #5
As deeply disturbing as this story is Crunchy Frog Oct 2012 #14
This brings up some important questions davidpdx Oct 2012 #7
As the boy is a minor michreject Oct 2012 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author KatyMan Oct 2012 #11
If you don't understand by 12 that killing is wrong, I doubt you will ever learn that. hobbit709 Oct 2012 #13
Sure, but that doesn't mean he should be tried as an adult. Quantess Oct 2012 #17
so then you would agree that 12 year olds should be tried as adults Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #18
I said he should have been tried for murder hobbit709 Oct 2012 #30
"Even if tried as a juvenile, he still should do 25." Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #32
What do you think the penalty for murder should be? hobbit709 Oct 2012 #35
There have been cases involving 5 year olds. 25 years for them as well? Chemisse Oct 2012 #42
What is the precise degree of its wrong-ness and on what objective measure is that based? LanternWaste Oct 2012 #31
Some further details of the case. Crunchy Frog Oct 2012 #15
the kid who talked him into it only got 30 years (last five on probation) renate Oct 2012 #23
15 year old with crackpot scheme to run away and make riches, kills abusive step-father on the way. ieoeja Oct 2012 #29
So was the man was already dead from the other bullet wounds? Chemisse Oct 2012 #43
Indiana - at the forefront of the effort to lead us back to the 12th Century - n/t coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #19
With Democratic Underground not being far behind Crunchy Frog Oct 2012 #39
So I wasn't hallucinating! :) - n/t coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #49
way to many years for a 12 yr old who was bullied into 'helping' the 15 yr old Sunlei Oct 2012 #27
12 years old Sadie5 Oct 2012 #28
Unfortunately argiel1234 Oct 2012 #33
Many ADULTS don't get 25 years! Si MC Oct 2012 #36
It is my understanding that the boy was 10 years of age when the killing was done, lumpy Nov 2012 #48
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