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120. Woah there nothing.

Thu Feb 3, 2022, 01:54 PM

Feb 2022

You said:

Mr. Greenblatt, along with some European press, and at least one other NGO, are the reason she was suspended, from what I can see. After her initial comments:

"Lead to" and "the reason" are not the same thing.

ETA: Her comments led to her suspension, not the fact that Jews, among others, pointed out what she said was ignorant and hurtful.

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Whoopi Goldberg Suspended From 'The View' for Holocaust Remarks [View all] George II Feb 2022 OP

I agree, this is bullshit. It perverts what is commonly accepted meaning.... RussellCattle Feb 2022 #1

saying this was "white on white" crime dimiishes the true horror of it all Skittles Feb 2022 #3

How So? RobinA Feb 2022 #81

Ummm, nazis killed people they identified as Jews even if they had converted to Christianity. unblock Feb 2022 #8

race is a socially defined concept DBoon Feb 2022 #33

The nazis made more of it than Jews did prior, but Judaism has always been unblock Feb 2022 #39

My husband converted to Judaism years ago after grad school. He subsequently married a CTyankee Feb 2022 #55

Yes, conversion is a lot of work but certainly it can be done unblock Feb 2022 #56

Israel won't accept conversions other than Orthodox. cab67 Feb 2022 #111

Yeah Christianity sure makes it a whole lot easier unblock Feb 2022 #115

The Nazis even classified people according to how many Jewish grandparents they had! ShazzieB Feb 2022 #101

This whole discussion seems to ignore Hitler's push for eugenic purification... AntiFascist Feb 2022 #92

The current commonly accepted meaning of "race" is not really germane here. ShazzieB Feb 2022 #102

well, she does need to do some reflecting Skittles Feb 2022 #2

I respectfully disagree. Her comments were blown way out of proportion and Jonathan Greenblatt.... George II Feb 2022 #4

so.... the Holocaust was "two white groups" Skittles Feb 2022 #9

That's not what she said. Not even close. Did you see the opening segment of The View today? George II Feb 2022 #10

pretty close Skittles Feb 2022 #21

As I already pointed out, even Jonathan Greenblatt acknowledged what she said and accepted.... George II Feb 2022 #23

I'd still like to know WHY did she say these things? Skittles Feb 2022 #26

Watch yesterday's show, and then watch today's show. George II Feb 2022 #28

I see she admits now she should have said it was about inhumanity AND race Skittles Feb 2022 #37

You must take context into account. She is an African American LiberalLovinLug Feb 2022 #89

YES! RayStar Feb 2022 #114

I just watched the segment with Jonathan Greenblatt, and I thought it was great. ShazzieB Feb 2022 #98

Here you go. The entire segment gives the full context of the discussion, but her comments.... George II Feb 2022 #100

Thanks for this! ShazzieB Feb 2022 #103

You're welcome, and I truly appreciate the way you look at it. Thanks! George II Feb 2022 #105

Since when did Jewish become a race? Chicago1980 Feb 2022 #12

they were considered sub-human Skittles Feb 2022 #13

I thought she meant it was about religion. demigoddess Feb 2022 #85

The census counts Middle Eastern and North African people as white IronLionZion Feb 2022 #15

Why are you comparing the modern USA to Nazi Germany? Buckeye_Democrat Feb 2022 #17

We are considered a separate ethnicity elias7 Feb 2022 #52

So YOU can tell if a person is Jewish just walking past them? oldsoftie Feb 2022 #70

I went to school with a guy from a family that was far wealthier than they appeared. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2022 #80

Only way I ever knew was a couple different ways; oldsoftie Feb 2022 #91

The point being that you can't rely solely on observation, right? BobTheSubgenius Feb 2022 #107

Ha! That would be MY brother as well! But they told us. oldsoftie Feb 2022 #110

A Jewish friend once corrected me that his religion is not a race. JohnnyRingo Feb 2022 #72

What Difference Does RobinA Feb 2022 #82

I agree PatSeg Feb 2022 #69

It was one of the most sincere, heartfelt apologies I've ever seen. It wasn't laced with.... George II Feb 2022 #71

Exactly PatSeg Feb 2022 #77

This! happy feet Feb 2022 #73

Interesting. Socal31 Feb 2022 #117

Wait. You are blaming JEWS for her suspension?! For something SHE said? Behind the Aegis Feb 2022 #118

Woah there. Socal31 Feb 2022 #119

Woah there nothing. Behind the Aegis Feb 2022 #120

This is just stupid. DURHAM D Feb 2022 #5

Probably not. Nor would a white woman. Anyone remember the years of Meghan McCain? George II Feb 2022 #11

Vividly!!! pazzyanne Feb 2022 #45

yes Skittles Feb 2022 #27

Wrong. DURHAM D Feb 2022 #29

WE would condemn them Skittles Feb 2022 #30

Agree. Black woman judged differently...and here by old white men doing the judging. Alexander Of Assyria Feb 2022 #63

She was suspended by Kim Godwin, the president of ABC News, who is African American MichMan Feb 2022 #96

I love Whoopi but I also have no problem with a 2-week suspension. unblock Feb 2022 #6

Her post-Colbert updated apology seemed a lot better. So it was a learning experience. thesquanderer Feb 2022 #7

I'm watching Don Lemon's show right now. Jonathan Greenblatt is on, and he seems to be.... George II Feb 2022 #14

They're doing this because Whoopi is a black woman. Complete bullshit. onecaliberal Feb 2022 #16

Exactly - an outspoken Black woman. They gave Meghan McCain free rein for several years. George II Feb 2022 #19

They're also fine with the little Nazi fucker spewing hate and death. onecaliberal Feb 2022 #20

the standard for repuke propagandists is really fucking low Skittles Feb 2022 #38

I abhor Whoopi's comments. Shame! Cozmo Feb 2022 #18

Kim is AA. DURHAM D Feb 2022 #22

Yes. She's been in that position for less than a year. I think she's trying to impress those.... George II Feb 2022 #62

Didn't she apologize on the air that same show? brush Feb 2022 #24

Well they sure put her in her place Etherealoc1 Feb 2022 #25

Lol. Mrs. "Not a rape rape" stuck her foot in her mouth again and got suspended? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2022 #31

omg Hassin Bin Sober Skittles Feb 2022 #32

Race is a sociological concept, not a biological classification. jg10003 Feb 2022 #34

They, "HATE her" because she is... JoeOtterbein Feb 2022 #35

Yes. George II Feb 2022 #36

The major networks may be headed by racists against blacks? Would not be a shocker. Alexander Of Assyria Feb 2022 #65

Not a surprise when you realize what race owns the majority of these media companies. IHadToDoIt Feb 2022 #40

Go on. Tell us more. nt Carlitos Brigante Feb 2022 #41

and who do YOU think owns these media companies? Regardless, whatever the JohnSJ Feb 2022 #44

...there you are Behind the Aegis Feb 2022 #47

Wonder who's sock it is. Mosby Feb 2022 #74

Mel Gibson? Or is Pat Buchanan still alive? nt Carlitos Brigante Feb 2022 #76

So your blaming who exactly for the antisemitism????? cinematicdiversions Feb 2022 #53

Please explain what you mean by "what race owns media companies." AZLD4Candidate Feb 2022 #88

She talked about her suspension when she appeared with Stephen Colbert last night: Rhiannon12866 Feb 2022 #42

Whoopi Covid+ can't qualify as LBN and now this cadoman Feb 2022 #43

What is LBN? ShazzieB Feb 2022 #106

latest breaking news cadoman Feb 2022 #116

When our precious Earth is in danger... JoeOtterbein Feb 2022 #46

Her remarks were bad and ahistorical. Behind the Aegis Feb 2022 #48

It amazes me that so many in this thread seem to ignore one of the basic premises of hitler's JohnSJ Feb 2022 #50

So Hitler RobinA Feb 2022 #83

Why don't you read a little history. JohnSJ Feb 2022 #86

"Now" is beside the point. ShazzieB Feb 2022 #109

I've always thought of the holocaust as eugenics and evil scapegoating ecstatic Feb 2022 #94

Of course it was about race. Ever hear the term "master race", herrenrasse? It was the concept JohnSJ Feb 2022 #49

When moniss Feb 2022 #51

... Solly Mack Feb 2022 #54

Post removed Post removed Feb 2022 #57

She's a moron RandiFan1290 Feb 2022 #58

Heaven forbid that Whoopi says something critical about Bernie. NurseJackie Feb 2022 #60

I like Whoopi JohnSJ Feb 2022 #61

+1000, and the mindless assumptions about Whoopi Nixie Feb 2022 #68

When was that, and the context? Even so, that makes her a "moron"? George II Feb 2022 #75

Not the first time she's said something questionable TexasBushwhacker Feb 2022 #59

Regarding the rapist Roman Polanski: Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2022 #87

And yet you've been using a graphic in your signature for years portraying a girl being tossed.... George II Feb 2022 #95

You know Frankenstein is a fictional character, yes? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2022 #112

Fictional violence against little girls is acceptable? George II Feb 2022 #113

Not to defend what Goldberg said, but Wednesdays Feb 2022 #64

What the actual fuck? PlanetBev Feb 2022 #66

Jonathan Greenblatt's response to Whoopi Goldberg's FIRST of three apologies. He also appeared.... George II Feb 2022 #67

Works for me n/t TexasBushwhacker Feb 2022 #93

Obviously, I'm tone deaf Jimbo S Feb 2022 #78

This presupposes that the Holocaust is and was defined as a campaign against Jews. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2022 #79

Somewhat ironic considering she chose Goldberg as a stage name, instead of using Johnson. MichMan Feb 2022 #84

The show should be cancelled already BradAllison Feb 2022 #90

I've never watched it, only seen clips... VarryOn Feb 2022 #97

It allows people who know jack shit about politics to pretend they're paying attention. n/m BradAllison Feb 2022 #108

Whoopi ignorantly misspoke and acknowledge it and apologized. LakeArenal Feb 2022 #99

It's a pattern Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2022 #104