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PatrickforB

(15,394 posts)
72. I'll go with that. Franken never would have run for POTUS. And if he did,
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 07:47 PM
Feb 2022

I doubt he'd have gone 'deep' in the primaries.

He was not a potential opponent removed through baseless accusations, rather he was a stepping stone for a few ambitious people, Gillibrand included, who misread the situation and underestimated the blowback. It was a horror to see it play out, courtesy of that jerk with the Nixon tattoo on his back.

You know, I can remember when I read a lengthy piece - not sure where it was, maybe Rolling Stone - about how a young woman who was one of Franken's constituents, Jamie Leigh Jones, went overseas to work for Haliburton, and ended up getting gang-raped and then locked in one of those freight containers, seriously injured, under armed guard. It was horrible.

Franken acted immediately upon hearing of the situation, got her out of there, helped her and her family all he could, and later guided a law through Congress that got rid of binding arbitration clauses with employees alleging sexual assault for companies that have military contracts. In 2010, Jones got her day in court. She lost, but Franken made it possible for her to press her case in civil court instead of with some industry-paid arbitrator.

Bottom line, Franken is a stand up guy, and was a really good, caring Senator. I wish this would not have happened to him, because whether those accusations were credible or not, he did not get due process.

The whole thing smacked of a right-wing hit job. That is why, Brooklynite, I agree this was not dirty Dem politics nearly as much as the right wing using baseless Rovian smear tactics to get rid of a too-formidable opponent in the Senate.

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That is absolutely true JohnSJ Feb 2022 #1
Al, we love ya.... ificandream Feb 2022 #2
Yes! This! Franken's supporters here have been saying this for YEARS!! NurseJackie Feb 2022 #3
Report: Al Franken Mulling Another Run At Public Office PoliticAverse Feb 2022 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Feb 2022 #6
It's from 4 months, 28 days ago. n/t PoliticAverse Feb 2022 #10
sorry ... my bad math left-of-center2012 Feb 2022 #13
This one is even more recent (i guess from the same interview in the op) ColinC Feb 2022 #45
I'm still perturbed I can tell ya that, and damn I wish we'd had him throughout IQ45 regime Hugh_Lebowski Feb 2022 #5
I'm with you slightlv Feb 2022 #16
"played right into their hands" keithbvadu2 Feb 2022 #92
Very well said KS Toronado Feb 2022 #23
Boy howdy. I'm still bitter too. MontanaMama Feb 2022 #37
Great point I should've mentioned ... the dude is pretty brilliant Hugh_Lebowski Feb 2022 #40
My sentiments exactly. Paladin Feb 2022 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author maddiemom Feb 2022 #49
Al Franken was my Senator, and... pazzyanne Feb 2022 #56
You think you are angry, Pazzyanne? True Blue American Feb 2022 #93
Agree!!! nt pazzyanne Feb 2022 #96
He was railroaded. Lunabell Feb 2022 #7
Yes... indeed it was a setup. NurseJackie Feb 2022 #11
I belive it was his progressive views that made him a target. Lunabell Feb 2022 #38
He's much more intelligent that most other senators. His wit and wisdom were... NurseJackie Feb 2022 #55
Thank you NJ DENVERPOPS Feb 2022 #44
+ 1 nt pazzyanne Feb 2022 #57
you mean john kerry? orleans Feb 2022 #79
You are so right, thank you DENVERPOPS Feb 2022 #80
no problem. there has been so much shit that republicans pull orleans Feb 2022 #82
I agree. We do too much of it too. stopdiggin Feb 2022 #101
Franken was railroaded. He should run again. NurseJackie Feb 2022 #8
Agreed. And agreed. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #20
Such a shame and really unjust mahina Feb 2022 #9
That's the real reason they got rid of him... PoliticAverse Feb 2022 #12
AND he'd just gotten "warmed up" to the job. maddiemom Feb 2022 #50
He describes it as the "Hillary Model" in his book: "Be a workhorse, not a showhorse. Go to all your betsuni Feb 2022 #76
The wingers got the democrats to do their work for them. mudstump Feb 2022 #42
Yes mahina Feb 2022 #53
My Senator deserved mzmolly Feb 2022 #14
i'm still angry about it too. i was furious when that bandwagon started to run him out of dodge orleans Feb 2022 #81
I agree. mzmolly Feb 2022 #89
The whole thing was Roger Stone and Vlad Putin covering Trump and Co's ass. Ford_Prefect Feb 2022 #15
thank you for this post gopiscrap Feb 2022 #85
I love this dude. Joinfortmill Feb 2022 #17
Franken was one of our strongest and most effective voices. jalan48 Feb 2022 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Joinfortmill Feb 2022 #19
It was at the height of the "MeToo" movement... SergeStorms Feb 2022 #21
That's about how I size it up as well Serge (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Feb 2022 #41
exactly gopiscrap Feb 2022 #86
Here's my take on Roger Stone DFW Feb 2022 #100
Democrats...the only party who willingly eats their own stalwart warriors. SHAME mudstump Feb 2022 #22
So true... Wuddles440 Feb 2022 #24
Sen. Franken llashram Feb 2022 #25
Who was "they"? brooklynite Feb 2022 #26
it is obvious llashram Feb 2022 #27
The Democratic Caucus and Indivisible are a "tar and feather mob"? brooklynite Feb 2022 #29
You are entitled llashram Feb 2022 #34
I have no objection to people who are unhappy about his leaving... brooklynite Feb 2022 #35
he still was denied llashram Feb 2022 #36
Perhaps the word Gillibrand will strike a cord of remembrance. Polly Hennessey Feb 2022 #28
Unless you're arguing that all of the accusations were fake... brooklynite Feb 2022 #32
What is it about due process that is difficult to understand? Layzeebeaver Feb 2022 #61
Nobody forced Franken to leave; they can't brooklynite Feb 2022 #62
Ok... Layzeebeaver Feb 2022 #70
Thank you! pazzyanne Feb 2022 #98
the 'further' accusations stopdiggin Feb 2022 #103
That's disingenuous DLCWIdem Feb 2022 #90
I'll go with that. Franken never would have run for POTUS. And if he did, PatrickforB Feb 2022 #72
I find Roger Stone even less compelling as a presumed villain... brooklynite Feb 2022 #73
And no due process!!!!!! nt pazzyanne Feb 2022 #97
He was and still is a democratic icon and thought leader Layzeebeaver Feb 2022 #107
Is this the article about Franken and Jones? SouthBayDem Feb 2022 #111
The first one was an obvious hit job as per the New York article. DLCWIdem Feb 2022 #91
Oh, yes, I remember True Blue American Feb 2022 #94
Such a shame but he shouldn't have resigned if he thought the charges were false LymphocyteLover Feb 2022 #30
Guilt upon accusation and innuendo has always bothered me. AZLD4Candidate Feb 2022 #31
Come back and bring tough friends (Nt) FreepFryer Feb 2022 #33
This is why Democrats need to learn not to be so quick hamsterjill Feb 2022 #43
Talk about trashing a Democrat. LakeArenal Feb 2022 #48
Agreed. hamsterjill Feb 2022 #74
Yes. I think Cuomo was pushed. LakeArenal Feb 2022 #75
thank you I agree gopiscrap Feb 2022 #87
Yes... LiberatedUSA Feb 2022 #46
Bitter is the word... dixiechiken1 Feb 2022 #47
Damn you, Merkley! calimary Feb 2022 #51
But the 39 time rapist was free to serve and damn near blow up democracy. onecaliberal Feb 2022 #52
I wish he was still in the Senate... and I harbor ill feelings toward Gillibrand for her liberalla Feb 2022 #54
What, no comment of regret from hippywife Feb 2022 #58
I definitely noticed that too. BigmanPigman Feb 2022 #60
Why should she? brooklynite Feb 2022 #63
Because, she was the one that pushed so hard hippywife Feb 2022 #64
She was the face of multiple female Senators who felt the same way. brooklynite Feb 2022 #65
As the OP states... hippywife Feb 2022 #67
But that's the whole point; I don't fan-boy ANY politicians. brooklynite Feb 2022 #68
I don't have my nose up any of their asses, either. hippywife Feb 2022 #69
It was pretty awful xxqqqzme Feb 2022 #59
Who's going to put their money where their mouth is? brooklynite Feb 2022 #66
I have respected you posts for years. pazzyanne Feb 2022 #99
You serious? (damn, I hope not) -(nt)- stopdiggin Feb 2022 #104
Gosh darned right he didn't get due process. I still boil about this right-wing hatchet job PatrickforB Feb 2022 #71
I hadn't seen that Duckworth had apologized DFW Feb 2022 #109
I'm still fucking pissed off about this. Blue Owl Feb 2022 #77
Franken was one of our best in every way, period. nt BootinUp Feb 2022 #78
The dude was railroaded out of office. He was an excellent Senator. Martin68 Feb 2022 #83
it made me sick that some DUers were A-OK with this Skittles Feb 2022 #84
Yep, disgraceful. grantcart Feb 2022 #95
"further accusations" --- "but the emails!" -(nt)- stopdiggin Feb 2022 #105
They sold him down the river. Loki Liesmith Feb 2022 #88
Need and miss Al so much..... zentrum Feb 2022 #102
Good Example of Democrats Eating Their Own tonekat Feb 2022 #106
Al Franken was the bomb! nvme Feb 2022 #108
He was perceived to have an advantage, coming from an entertainment background LiberalLovinLug Feb 2022 #110
K&R ck4829 Feb 2022 #112
Given what we have been forced to endure these past 4 years... SKKY Feb 2022 #113
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