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In reply to the discussion: Exclusive: Top House Democrat Unveils Plan to Beat Back Progressive Rebellion [View all]oldsoftie
(12,597 posts)22. Because primary elections don't draw as much as the regular.
He's concerned about what he perceives to be the weaker candidate winning We saw in the "blue wave' of 2018, the majority of the most progressive candidates lost in the general.
This is like the tea party fiasco of several years ago; they primaried strong GOP candidates and then lost the general because their candidates were too far right.
Look no further than President Biden. Was HE the progressive candidate in the primaries? No. they all lost. And with the closeness of the 2020 election there's a good chance that TFG could have actually won if it hadn't been Joe Biden.
But hey, run 30-40 AOCs throughout the country and lets see if Rep Jefferies is right.
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ificandream
Feb 2022
OP
Exactly right...their priorities were completely screwed up. Renaming schools and doing nothing
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#117
That is similar. But in college I read a short story that I was surprised to see was authored by
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#155
What I would like to know is why does Mark Kelly have a progressive challenger in the primary?
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#156
Our young progressives have fire and know how to fight back. They don't go along to get along.
Autumn
Feb 2022
#146
There is no evidence that this is the case. However, there is evidence that many if not most
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#157
What? You think these Reps and Senators in their 60's to 80's are going to be there forever?
Autumn
Feb 2022
#167
Nope but you live in a future you somehow think will happen. I live in the present ...I am worried
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#183
"we don't need someone coming along and messing things up, perhaps even losing it by primarying
KPN
Feb 2022
#36
No one...should be challenging an incumbent this year. This is a midterm and we need to try to
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#158
I disagree when applying that thinking universally. And I'm okay with challengers in some strongly
KPN
Feb 2022
#185
All three of those were challengers to incumbents. I donated to two of them. They won and
ancianita
Feb 2022
#86
"They don't know us and they don't care to know us" listening to anyone else is out of the question
betsuni
Feb 2022
#194
So why is Jefferies concerned about Progressive's running in primaries if it's the Centrist's
jalan48
Feb 2022
#10
If more progressive candidates can win in deep blue districts what's the issue?
jalan48
Feb 2022
#30
The way I see it individual's run for office with differing opinions on the issues. Letting the
jalan48
Feb 2022
#39
The way I see it is we desperately need to hold the house and senate for judges and everything
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#118
Only if they can win elections. I tell you at this moment AOC would not win a primary in New York.
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#164
And that in a nutshell is the problem. Howard Dean match districts/states with candidates and he was
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#165
Maybe it's really about money and not offending/losing big, more conservative donors.
jalan48
Feb 2022
#44
Would you please name one conservative donor besides Big fossil donors? Because we have
ancianita
Feb 2022
#47
He doesn't want to lose . And no doubt, the Gop will try to pick the primary candidate sure to lose.
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#109
Texas is not deep blue in any district OK? We should primary no one this year...it is
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#116
I just helped elect Shontel Brown ...a Democrat and defeated Hillary/Democrat hating Nina Turner.
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#166
In many of those primaries Republicans can vote and help field a Democratic candidate they know will
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#119
Primaries weaken incumbents...it also costs money that could be spent on the general. I do not
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#160
I am sorry. I am truly pissed that Mark Kelly faces a progressive challanger who might weaken
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#180
81 million showed up to tell America that they want the progressive Biden-Harris package.
ancianita
Feb 2022
#34
Right? We haven't, so why do people here put 'standalones' out as a viable option for Progressives.
ancianita
Feb 2022
#58
It is a 50 50 Senate. Perhaps they should adjust their expectations. And how does primarying
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#161
They did. They ran as Bernie type progressives. Bernie's & Biden's transition teams collaborated
ancianita
Feb 2022
#93
Thank you for your on-the-ground history of in-party dynamics. It's eye-opening.
ancianita
Feb 2022
#136
Not according to Bernie. Of COURSE Biden didn't run as a populist. Trump did.
ancianita
Feb 2022
#106
Biden did not run as a Bernie Sanders type progressive. Why would he? Sanders lost the primary.
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#162
What exactly is a "Bernie type progressive"? As for the transition teams collaborating...
George II
Feb 2022
#169
I'm not arguing what a progressive is by who was progressive. I only care that progressives,
ancianita
Feb 2022
#200
No. I haven't seen evidence of their doing so. Unless you can link their doing so,
ancianita
Feb 2022
#216
But your calling "attempts to stifle criticism of their "branding" as *denial* is the perfect view
ancianita
Feb 2022
#221
I want what you say to be true. But it isn't. We can barely field a majority in the House and Senate
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#121
Fine. I get your fair points. Just remember that current progressives were seen the same way
ancianita
Feb 2022
#124
I think Fetterman is a great candidate. Like Biden he can attract moderate voters and talk
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#163
If there is no progress people don't show up to vote. One would think that's obvious.
Autumn
Feb 2022
#33
IF? Are you trying to say there's been no progess from this Biden-Harris administration?
ancianita
Feb 2022
#35
Then you win those elections that can be won, and accept that we won't get everything we want...and
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#168
Progressives are the future. It's their world I can't wait to see them in charge.
Autumn
Feb 2022
#147
I don't see that happening anytime soon, and the GOP can stop it if they continue to win.
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#170
It's up to Dems to make sure the GOP doesn't win. A lot of young voters out there. Dems need to
Autumn
Feb 2022
#173
You can't the stop the GOP if you can't win in red and purple districts...thus you must field
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#182
(cough cough) Hakeem Jeffries has been a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus for years.
George II
Feb 2022
#192
A member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus is "putting Progressives in their place"
betsuni
Feb 2022
#195
If the progressive candidates win say the Texas primary and other places, can they win the General?
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#107
We have to win...everytime a GOP wins we get dragged further to the right...and honestly there is
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#172
I hope this brings to light the truth of Waleed Shahid, Max Berger, Zac Exley & Saikat Chakrabarti's
Budi
Feb 2022
#14
I guess being a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus makes him a centrist...
George II
Feb 2022
#191
Exactly. The truth of their purpose is in the Party they challenge & the Party they never touch.
Budi
Feb 2022
#63
Huh? So McAuliffe wasn't to the left enough so voters chose a candidate to the RIGHT of him?
George II
Feb 2022
#85
Oh, please. Phony baloney. The party SUPPORTS INCUMBENTS as a matter of princple.
Hortensis
Feb 2022
#77
I may have missed it, but I didn't see anything that said Team Blue PAC has a "Plan to Beat Back
George II
Feb 2022
#79
Yep. Where this "Progressive Rebellion" characterization comes in sounds weird, even suspect.
ancianita
Feb 2022
#87
Are you familiar with groups like Justice Democrats, Brand New Congress, Courage to Change?
George II
Feb 2022
#88
You're welcome. They've been going after incumbent Democrats since the were established...
George II
Feb 2022
#206
So is everyone here also familiar with the DCCC blacklist? Can you explain why progressive PACs'
ancianita
Feb 2022
#207
Where is the evidence of corruption? How do people employed by corporations or other industries
betsuni
Feb 2022
#208
Of course that's always the justification for Citizens United and altruistic donations through
ancianita
Feb 2022
#211
So what do you have to say about Justice Democrats, Brand New Congress (same founders)....
George II
Feb 2022
#96
I hate to break it to you but you are not part of a majority. It was moderates that gave us the
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#175
We can progress with moderates but can't if we nominate those who lose the election
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#112
Hakeen Jeffries is a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, and he's an ACTIVE member.....
George II
Feb 2022
#97
It's hilarious when JDs get hysterical about Democrats raising money to beat Republicans.
betsuni
Feb 2022
#104
What egos, eh? Team Blue PAC isn't "targeting JD candidates", they're SUPPORTING INCUMBENT...
George II
Feb 2022
#188
"Targeting" them -- always the victim of the big bad establishment out to get them, poor dears.
betsuni
Feb 2022
#197
Left of Center? Their stated goal is to takeover the Dem Party from within. That They are not Democr
Budi
Feb 2022
#145
We have to win elections...and consider that why would the Democratic Majority want more
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#176
"Why are members of the hard-left targeting progressive members of Congress, and then trying
betsuni
Feb 2022
#148
the brainchild of Zack Exley, founder of Brand New Congress and Justice Democrats.
LetMyPeopleVote
Oct 2022
#233
By fighting off "progressives" the party is writing off the people who should be our base
Withywindle
Feb 2022
#225
I guess I'll probably get alerted on for this, but I have to spot a pattern
Withywindle
Feb 2022
#226
Just about everyone calling for forgiving student debt knows that Biden can't...
George II
Feb 2022
#227