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Exclusive: Top House Democrat Unveils Plan to Beat Back Progressive Rebellion [View all]
ificandream
Feb 2022
OP
Exactly right...their priorities were completely screwed up. Renaming schools and doing nothing
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#117
That is similar. But in college I read a short story that I was surprised to see was authored by
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#155
What I would like to know is why does Mark Kelly have a progressive challenger in the primary?
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#156
Our young progressives have fire and know how to fight back. They don't go along to get along.
Autumn
Feb 2022
#146
There is no evidence that this is the case. However, there is evidence that many if not most
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#157
What? You think these Reps and Senators in their 60's to 80's are going to be there forever?
Autumn
Feb 2022
#167
Nope but you live in a future you somehow think will happen. I live in the present ...I am worried
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#183
"we don't need someone coming along and messing things up, perhaps even losing it by primarying
KPN
Feb 2022
#36
No one...should be challenging an incumbent this year. This is a midterm and we need to try to
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#158
I disagree when applying that thinking universally. And I'm okay with challengers in some strongly
KPN
Feb 2022
#185
All three of those were challengers to incumbents. I donated to two of them. They won and
ancianita
Feb 2022
#86
"They don't know us and they don't care to know us" listening to anyone else is out of the question
betsuni
Feb 2022
#194
So why is Jefferies concerned about Progressive's running in primaries if it's the Centrist's
jalan48
Feb 2022
#10
If more progressive candidates can win in deep blue districts what's the issue?
jalan48
Feb 2022
#30
The way I see it individual's run for office with differing opinions on the issues. Letting the
jalan48
Feb 2022
#39
The way I see it is we desperately need to hold the house and senate for judges and everything
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#118
Only if they can win elections. I tell you at this moment AOC would not win a primary in New York.
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#164
And that in a nutshell is the problem. Howard Dean match districts/states with candidates and he was
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#165
Maybe it's really about money and not offending/losing big, more conservative donors.
jalan48
Feb 2022
#44
Would you please name one conservative donor besides Big fossil donors? Because we have
ancianita
Feb 2022
#47
He doesn't want to lose . And no doubt, the Gop will try to pick the primary candidate sure to lose.
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#109
Texas is not deep blue in any district OK? We should primary no one this year...it is
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#116
I just helped elect Shontel Brown ...a Democrat and defeated Hillary/Democrat hating Nina Turner.
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#166
In many of those primaries Republicans can vote and help field a Democratic candidate they know will
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#119
Primaries weaken incumbents...it also costs money that could be spent on the general. I do not
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#160
I am sorry. I am truly pissed that Mark Kelly faces a progressive challanger who might weaken
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#180
81 million showed up to tell America that they want the progressive Biden-Harris package.
ancianita
Feb 2022
#34
Right? We haven't, so why do people here put 'standalones' out as a viable option for Progressives.
ancianita
Feb 2022
#58
It is a 50 50 Senate. Perhaps they should adjust their expectations. And how does primarying
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#161
They did. They ran as Bernie type progressives. Bernie's & Biden's transition teams collaborated
ancianita
Feb 2022
#93
Thank you for your on-the-ground history of in-party dynamics. It's eye-opening.
ancianita
Feb 2022
#136
Not according to Bernie. Of COURSE Biden didn't run as a populist. Trump did.
ancianita
Feb 2022
#106
Biden did not run as a Bernie Sanders type progressive. Why would he? Sanders lost the primary.
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#162
What exactly is a "Bernie type progressive"? As for the transition teams collaborating...
George II
Feb 2022
#169
I'm not arguing what a progressive is by who was progressive. I only care that progressives,
ancianita
Feb 2022
#200
No. I haven't seen evidence of their doing so. Unless you can link their doing so,
ancianita
Feb 2022
#216
But your calling "attempts to stifle criticism of their "branding" as *denial* is the perfect view
ancianita
Feb 2022
#221
I want what you say to be true. But it isn't. We can barely field a majority in the House and Senate
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#121
Fine. I get your fair points. Just remember that current progressives were seen the same way
ancianita
Feb 2022
#124
I think Fetterman is a great candidate. Like Biden he can attract moderate voters and talk
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#163
If there is no progress people don't show up to vote. One would think that's obvious.
Autumn
Feb 2022
#33
IF? Are you trying to say there's been no progess from this Biden-Harris administration?
ancianita
Feb 2022
#35
Then you win those elections that can be won, and accept that we won't get everything we want...and
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#168
Progressives are the future. It's their world I can't wait to see them in charge.
Autumn
Feb 2022
#147
I don't see that happening anytime soon, and the GOP can stop it if they continue to win.
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#170
It's up to Dems to make sure the GOP doesn't win. A lot of young voters out there. Dems need to
Autumn
Feb 2022
#173
You can't the stop the GOP if you can't win in red and purple districts...thus you must field
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#182
(cough cough) Hakeem Jeffries has been a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus for years.
George II
Feb 2022
#192
A member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus is "putting Progressives in their place"
betsuni
Feb 2022
#195
If the progressive candidates win say the Texas primary and other places, can they win the General?
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#107
We have to win...everytime a GOP wins we get dragged further to the right...and honestly there is
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#172
I hope this brings to light the truth of Waleed Shahid, Max Berger, Zac Exley & Saikat Chakrabarti's
Budi
Feb 2022
#14
I guess being a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus makes him a centrist...
George II
Feb 2022
#191
Exactly. The truth of their purpose is in the Party they challenge & the Party they never touch.
Budi
Feb 2022
#63
Huh? So McAuliffe wasn't to the left enough so voters chose a candidate to the RIGHT of him?
George II
Feb 2022
#85
Oh, please. Phony baloney. The party SUPPORTS INCUMBENTS as a matter of princple.
Hortensis
Feb 2022
#77
I may have missed it, but I didn't see anything that said Team Blue PAC has a "Plan to Beat Back
George II
Feb 2022
#79
Yep. Where this "Progressive Rebellion" characterization comes in sounds weird, even suspect.
ancianita
Feb 2022
#87
Are you familiar with groups like Justice Democrats, Brand New Congress, Courage to Change?
George II
Feb 2022
#88
You're welcome. They've been going after incumbent Democrats since the were established...
George II
Feb 2022
#206
So is everyone here also familiar with the DCCC blacklist? Can you explain why progressive PACs'
ancianita
Feb 2022
#207
Where is the evidence of corruption? How do people employed by corporations or other industries
betsuni
Feb 2022
#208
Of course that's always the justification for Citizens United and altruistic donations through
ancianita
Feb 2022
#211
So what do you have to say about Justice Democrats, Brand New Congress (same founders)....
George II
Feb 2022
#96
I hate to break it to you but you are not part of a majority. It was moderates that gave us the
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#175
We can progress with moderates but can't if we nominate those who lose the election
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#112
Hakeen Jeffries is a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, and he's an ACTIVE member.....
George II
Feb 2022
#97
It's hilarious when JDs get hysterical about Democrats raising money to beat Republicans.
betsuni
Feb 2022
#104
What egos, eh? Team Blue PAC isn't "targeting JD candidates", they're SUPPORTING INCUMBENT...
George II
Feb 2022
#188
"Targeting" them -- always the victim of the big bad establishment out to get them, poor dears.
betsuni
Feb 2022
#197
Left of Center? Their stated goal is to takeover the Dem Party from within. That They are not Democr
Budi
Feb 2022
#145
We have to win elections...and consider that why would the Democratic Majority want more
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#176
"Why are members of the hard-left targeting progressive members of Congress, and then trying
betsuni
Feb 2022
#148
the brainchild of Zack Exley, founder of Brand New Congress and Justice Democrats.
LetMyPeopleVote
Oct 2022
#233
By fighting off "progressives" the party is writing off the people who should be our base
Withywindle
Feb 2022
#225
I guess I'll probably get alerted on for this, but I have to spot a pattern
Withywindle
Feb 2022
#226
Just about everyone calling for forgiving student debt knows that Biden can't...
George II
Feb 2022
#227