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Sancho

(9,206 posts)
29. People Control, Not Gun Control
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 12:56 PM
Feb 2022

This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70’s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that weren’t secured are out of control in our society. As such, here’s what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. I’m not debating the legal language, I just think it’s the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because it’s clear that they should never have had a gun.

1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learner’s license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.

Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a driver’s license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.

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WTF is wrong with people? nycbos Feb 2022 #1
If you find out first, please let me know. Harker Feb 2022 #2
The first time I heard that statement, from someone whom I had thought, until niyad Feb 2022 #5
That's a great example... Harker Feb 2022 #14
Never Rebl2 Feb 2022 #7
First thing that happened when a mining camp sprouted a general store Warpy Feb 2022 #17
Have you ever seen the James Garner movie, "Support Your Local Sheriff"? niyad Feb 2022 #22
I'm going through life polite and unarmed. n/t Harker Feb 2022 #18
Same Rebl2 Feb 2022 #23
... Harker Feb 2022 #26
The person from whom I heard it was older than I am, and she learned it from niyad Feb 2022 #24
The phrase first appeared in Robert A. Heinlein's 1942 science fiction novel "Beyond This Horizon". Dial H For Hero Feb 2022 #30
I think they call that war StClone Feb 2022 #8
"Good fences make good neighbors." eggplant Feb 2022 #15
I like that one much better. n/t Harker Feb 2022 #19
*"Good fences make good neighbors." StClone Feb 2022 #25
Fox, the GOP, lack of education, propaganda, disinformation, TV and its violent shows, TV and its Escurumbele Feb 2022 #10
Gun possession causes insanity sanatanadharma Feb 2022 #27
coward - putting a child at risk because of a dispute at a fast food store..... getagrip_already Feb 2022 #3
Good thing he didn't use it himself, I am glad the SOB is a coward, a cop could have been killed. Escurumbele Feb 2022 #12
I hope that Child Protective Services has become involved. niyad Feb 2022 #4
I'm from the Republican/Rittenhouse murder state of Wisconsin and tell you that man and johnthewoodworker Feb 2022 #6
There are times when it's best not to obey our parents IronLionZion Feb 2022 #9
People are addicted to the adrenaline that rage produces. Thunderbeast Feb 2022 #11
The rage is caused by what is around you, the impotence of not being able to have a good life Escurumbele Feb 2022 #13
Agree. Thunderbeast Feb 2022 #16
Agree nt XanaDUer2 Mar 2022 #35
Good thing the cop was able to disarm the child. JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2022 #20
Who could have predicted that every person carrying a gun would have this effect? AllyCat Feb 2022 #21
Did that fuck'n idiot... LiberatedUSA Feb 2022 #28
People Control, Not Gun Control Sancho Feb 2022 #29
Drivers should have something like you listed for guns burrowowl Feb 2022 #33
Great ideas, but... Hestia Feb 2022 #34
"This needs to stop and we need to come together as a community to find solutions to the challenges LiberalLovinLug Feb 2022 #31
There is no limit tiredtoo Feb 2022 #32
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