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hunter

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24. So long as Germany rejects nuclear power they cannot quit coal or Russian natural gas.
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 12:09 PM
Feb 2022

Notice how nobody is mentioning Nord Stream One which has an annual capacity of 55 billion cubic meters of gas.

If Germany's nimble gas power plants are shut down for lack of fuel then the erratic electrical output of wind and solar projects becomes much less useful and more dirty coal has to be burned.

Germany currently imports about a third of its gas from Russia.

Gas from Nord Stream 2 would have been used to further reduce Germany's dependence on coal.

At the moment the wind is blowing in Germany so gas use is minimal, about 5 gigawatts, but that's not always the case.

For comparison, California's Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant has a capacity of 2.25 gigawatts.

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Good. It was a stupid idea to begin with. Don't buy from Russia. oldsoftie Feb 2022 #1
China is Ukraine's top trading partner, I believe, gab13by13 Feb 2022 #10
Putin had to know this was going to happen. I wonder if he has a plan B such as the gas going ... Botany Feb 2022 #2
They now have a 30-year deal. marie999 Feb 2022 #11
Blocking A Private-Sector Pipeline WHITT Feb 2022 #3
Lucrative for lawyers, though. Nt Ghost Dog Feb 2022 #4
Always! WHITT Feb 2022 #6
That pipeline isn't actually in use yet but would have been a faster route to western Europe BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #7
Sure, I'll bet he's thinking NJCher Feb 2022 #8
As #5 below says, it's owned by Gazprom, and the Russian govt is the majority shareholder in that muriel_volestrangler Feb 2022 #9
Pipeline #2 WHITT Feb 2022 #13
Gazprom think they own it all muriel_volestrangler Feb 2022 #15
They Don't WHITT Feb 2022 #16
Your assertions against the reality are not impressive muriel_volestrangler Feb 2022 #18
They're Wrong WHITT Feb 2022 #25
They're right: muriel_volestrangler Feb 2022 #26
Thanks For Confirming My Point WHITT Feb 2022 #27
In bold, for the hard of reading: muriel_volestrangler Feb 2022 #30
Didn't Read That Far WHITT Feb 2022 #31
Are you serious? muriel_volestrangler Feb 2022 #33
Sorry WHITT Feb 2022 #34
congrats on winning that weird discussion n/t Slammer Feb 2022 #40
Wrong. Far from toothless. Much more expensive for Russia. No other markets close by. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #14
Its not toothless if no one buys it. Which is the objective. oldsoftie Feb 2022 #22
Done deal now - this describes a bit more too BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #5
excellent news-- Russia had a chance to peacefully join the European economy and they blew it LymphocyteLover Feb 2022 #28
Putin wants to reconsitute the U.S.S.R. BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #32
Germany and the US gab13by13 Feb 2022 #12
what about Nord Stream 1? RussBLib Feb 2022 #17
Most likely, but I believe gab13by13 Feb 2022 #19
Shouldn't the US stop importing Russian gas Ghost Dog Feb 2022 #21
YES. Should've stopped long ago. oldsoftie Feb 2022 #23
Since when did we import any? LymphocyteLover Feb 2022 #29
See Lukoil BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #35
Wow, I've never seen those. Gross. LymphocyteLover Feb 2022 #36
I noticed that their gasoline tends to run cheaper around where I live BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #37
It was a bad idea to begin with. Happy Hoosier Feb 2022 #20
+1 exactly! Emile Feb 2022 #38
So long as Germany rejects nuclear power they cannot quit coal or Russian natural gas. hunter Feb 2022 #24
I'm afraid that this may be a simply symbolic move that will be quietly overturned once things artemisia1 Feb 2022 #39
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