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Dial H For Hero

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30. The phrase first appeared in Robert A. Heinlein's 1942 science fiction novel "Beyond This Horizon".
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 01:49 PM
Feb 2022

In the novel, duels and the carrying of arms are socially accepted ways of maintaining civility in public. A man can wear distinctive clothing to show his unwillingness to duel, but this results in an inferior social status.

It's notable that the main character, in the course of the first pages, first comes close to a duel over a spilled bowl of soup (the duel being defused by way of a formalized apology), and shortly thereafter has an actual duel with a drunk.

The point being that in context the phrase is not meant to imply that an armed society results in everybody being nice to each other, but rather that the consequence of so many people being openly armed and ready to draw at the drop of a hat has resulted in most such confrontations (but hardly all of them) being prevented only by way of overly polite rituals. As the character says, "...to stay alive as an armed citizen a man has to be either quick with his wits or with his hands, preferably both."

Both pro- and anti- gun rights people who merely quote the six word phrase almost inevitably do so out of context.

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WTF is wrong with people? nycbos Feb 2022 #1
If you find out first, please let me know. Harker Feb 2022 #2
The first time I heard that statement, from someone whom I had thought, until niyad Feb 2022 #5
That's a great example... Harker Feb 2022 #14
Never Rebl2 Feb 2022 #7
First thing that happened when a mining camp sprouted a general store Warpy Feb 2022 #17
Have you ever seen the James Garner movie, "Support Your Local Sheriff"? niyad Feb 2022 #22
I'm going through life polite and unarmed. n/t Harker Feb 2022 #18
Same Rebl2 Feb 2022 #23
... Harker Feb 2022 #26
The person from whom I heard it was older than I am, and she learned it from niyad Feb 2022 #24
The phrase first appeared in Robert A. Heinlein's 1942 science fiction novel "Beyond This Horizon". Dial H For Hero Feb 2022 #30
I think they call that war StClone Feb 2022 #8
"Good fences make good neighbors." eggplant Feb 2022 #15
I like that one much better. n/t Harker Feb 2022 #19
*"Good fences make good neighbors." StClone Feb 2022 #25
Fox, the GOP, lack of education, propaganda, disinformation, TV and its violent shows, TV and its Escurumbele Feb 2022 #10
Gun possession causes insanity sanatanadharma Feb 2022 #27
coward - putting a child at risk because of a dispute at a fast food store..... getagrip_already Feb 2022 #3
Good thing he didn't use it himself, I am glad the SOB is a coward, a cop could have been killed. Escurumbele Feb 2022 #12
I hope that Child Protective Services has become involved. niyad Feb 2022 #4
I'm from the Republican/Rittenhouse murder state of Wisconsin and tell you that man and johnthewoodworker Feb 2022 #6
There are times when it's best not to obey our parents IronLionZion Feb 2022 #9
People are addicted to the adrenaline that rage produces. Thunderbeast Feb 2022 #11
The rage is caused by what is around you, the impotence of not being able to have a good life Escurumbele Feb 2022 #13
Agree. Thunderbeast Feb 2022 #16
Agree nt XanaDUer2 Mar 2022 #35
Good thing the cop was able to disarm the child. JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2022 #20
Who could have predicted that every person carrying a gun would have this effect? AllyCat Feb 2022 #21
Did that fuck'n idiot... LiberatedUSA Feb 2022 #28
People Control, Not Gun Control Sancho Feb 2022 #29
Drivers should have something like you listed for guns burrowowl Feb 2022 #33
Great ideas, but... Hestia Feb 2022 #34
"This needs to stop and we need to come together as a community to find solutions to the challenges LiberalLovinLug Feb 2022 #31
There is no limit tiredtoo Feb 2022 #32
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