'Stand your ground' laws linked to 11% rise in U.S. firearm homicides, study says

[AndyS]

21. Oh! The causation/correlation dodge! You should have just lead with that

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it would have saved us both a few posts!

The best explanation of the causation/correlation dodge goes like this:

Double the number of cars on a freeway and traffic accidents will increase; that's correlation.
However no-one can look at any individual accident and prove conclusively that this one accident was directly caused by the increased traffic; that would be causation. Repeat that for every accident and suddenly, voila!, no relationship between traffic and accidents.

Interesting mental gymnastics but a dodge nonetheless.

In the case of SYG it isn't possible to prove that any one homicide was a direct result of SYG as it could have been a legitimate self defense however when it happens in 74% of states within two years of passing a SYG it makes a pretty hard iron clad case of correlation.

In short the difference is without distinction.

To be honest you're not very good at this. I've got 40 years of experience "debating" this shit. I have the advantage of knowing this isn't a debate, it's a justification of worshiping firearms because the gun lobby has 'lobbotymized' gunners into believing the crazy stuff they've been told.

eta: Sorry to take so long to respond to a no-brainer but I was across town at a doctor's appointment from 2pm to 5:30.