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In reply to the discussion: Turkey to ban Russian warships from Black Sea [View all]PatSeg
(53,486 posts)13. Here is more from the Guardian updates
Turkeys foreign minister, Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu, has called on Russia to stop the military operation in Ukraine.
The Turkish foreign ministry said on Saturday that Çavuşoğlu had repeated his offer for Ankara to be a location for peace talks between Russia and Ukraine.
Relations have been warm between Turkeys president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, and Vladimir Putin, but the country occupies an awkward position.
In recent years, Turkey signed a deal with Russia for an air defence system, but it has sold military drones to Ukraine and is a key part of Nato.
The Turkish foreign ministry said on Saturday that Çavuşoğlu had repeated his offer for Ankara to be a location for peace talks between Russia and Ukraine.
Relations have been warm between Turkeys president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, and Vladimir Putin, but the country occupies an awkward position.
In recent years, Turkey signed a deal with Russia for an air defence system, but it has sold military drones to Ukraine and is a key part of Nato.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/feb/26/russia-ukraine-latest-news-fighting-kyiv-zelenskiy-assault-putin-capital
Here's an update to the claim about Turkey:
Theres some confusion about Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskiys claim earlier that Turkey had pledged to close the straits to access the Black Sea.
Russia, via the Interfax news agency, had said it has had no official notification of the closure. Its believed that Zelenskiys tweet may have been a request for Turkey to take action, rather than a confirmation that it would be in place.
The Montreux Convention, which governs the Bosporus and Dardanelles straits, says that ships from Black Sea states will be allowed to return to port during wartime. If Turkey did go ahead and ban warships from the strait, it would break the convention.
Russia, via the Interfax news agency, had said it has had no official notification of the closure. Its believed that Zelenskiys tweet may have been a request for Turkey to take action, rather than a confirmation that it would be in place.
The Montreux Convention, which governs the Bosporus and Dardanelles straits, says that ships from Black Sea states will be allowed to return to port during wartime. If Turkey did go ahead and ban warships from the strait, it would break the convention.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/feb/26/russia-ukraine-latest-news-fighting-kyiv-zelenskiy-assault-putin-capital
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My fear is you are right, my hope is you are wrong. But win or lose, Russia loses. And loses big.
Scrivener7
Feb 2022
#33
Countries are sending weapons, thankfully. Russia is becoming isolated in the world.
onecaliberal
Feb 2022
#34
I know. And it's a lot of civilians who were living like you and me four days ago.
Scrivener7
Feb 2022
#36
My daughter has been to Ukraine many times on mission trips over the last 15 years.
onecaliberal
Feb 2022
#37
Come on Turkey--be a hero!! time to break any old convention. #standwithUkraine
riversedge
Feb 2022
#20
While closing the straits might break the Montreux Convention, this breaks laws:
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2022
#21
If Turkey closes the Dardanelles and Bosporus Straits, get ready for a larger war.
roamer65
Feb 2022
#41