Ukrainian President Zelensky says NATO's Article 5 "has never been as weak as it is now"

[TomWilm]

89. The impossibility of "closing the airspace" is just a myth NATO tell us

It seems to be, that I am the only one who has actually read the NATO treaty (plus a few other DUers). All our politicians has never studied that thing, and nor has their generals - or maybe they are in some kind of collective delusion, or are simply bending the truth...

Actually I think most of them has only a very partial idea of it, even about Article 5. All that is ever told in the speeches about the NATO treaty is that “Article 5 is: An attack against one ally is treated as an attack against all”. Which technically is true, but does not tell the real story.


"Closing the airspace", even just a no-fly zone to protect a small humanitarian corridor, is the same as keeping the enemy away from that area by military force. And since the myth among all the NATO leaders today is something about an attack on them all and so - this will automatically lead to all of NATO going to war against the attacker.

But this does not at all square with the NATO treaty, which does not force anybody into the use of armed force, but just to do such action as it deems necessary - like writing a harsh letter.

And to your point, the NATO treaty are solely focusing on territory, and not on military units leaving their homes, and going far abroad. It is precisely not covering military jets flying above Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria or even Ukraine - but only "aircraft of any of the Parties, when in or over these territories" - aka only NATO territory!


There is no words in the NATO treaty forcing their member to help Ukraine, but there is also nothing stopping any country in NATO, even the United States, to have their private adventure by going there. Which would not include NATO as such in any way.

It would put that country at war with Russia, but real fighting would most probably only be acted out in Ukrainian territory. Military brains normally knows have to keep such trickery from spreading too far.

BUT the bottom line is, that the people in charge of all the military of NATO, including nuclear bombs, will act as if they cannot place a NATO war plane in the now contested airspace of Ukraine - since Russia shooting it down, or the opposite, by treaty would throw the full NATO military force into war with Russia. Though it is not so!


Since I also am a pacifist, I should not spread this analysis ☺️. My view is that Biden should announce that he is flying Air Force One to Kyjiv for a summit NOW. As long as Biden is in the capitol of Ukraine, there would never be a Russian attack close by. Putin is stupidly aggressive, but neither he or his generals are suicidal.

Such a gesture from Biden would be in full spirit of the NATO treaty, which - and the NATO crowd would never quote this themselves - demands that all NATO members undertake to settle any international dispute in which they may be involved by peaceful means!