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62. The Watergate investigation took two years because the DOJ was in the hands

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:05 PM

Apr 2022

of the President being investigated. Now it is in the hands of the opposite party so there are not the limitations of investigating the boss. Also Watergate was largely ignored by most and was only investigated because of the revelations of two reporters. So it was not a two year investigation at all. Not only that but in 1972-74 the DOJ and everyone else did not have the investigative tools unleashed by the internet that we have now.

Do I think anything substantial is being investigated by the DOJ regarding Trump? No I don't. Because I know the DOJ doesn't operate in a vacuum. The talk to people. They call in witnesses. They subpoena documents. All of these things are not done in secret because they can't be. People who are interviewed talk and their lawyers talk. Subpoenas require court hearings. That is the reality.

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Jan. 6 Panel Has Evidence for Criminal Referral of Trump, but Splits on Sending [View all] Novara Apr 2022 OP

They need to recuse True Blue American Apr 2022 #1

Paul Wellstone's funeral was not a political event but it was made one. bottomofthehill Apr 2022 #2

Above the law. sarcasmo Apr 2022 #3

Excuse me but this is the NYT... agingdem Apr 2022 #4

re: "no one from the J6 committee is talking to the NYT" thesquanderer Apr 2022 #8

Liz Cheney just disputed that..she should know agingdem Apr 2022 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author thesquanderer Apr 2022 #49

Cheney did not dispute it. And the paper quoted people by name. thesquanderer Apr 2022 #52

the bottom line is this..I don't really care if the agingdem Apr 2022 #55

Exactly. Typical shallow reporting based on speculation or hearsay JohnSJ Apr 2022 #12

Zoe Lofgren has been quoted as saying she leans against making a criminal referral Fiendish Thingy Apr 2022 #19

that's doesn't make it a split committee agingdem Apr 2022 #23

That doesn't mean they all agree on the issue of making a criminal referral either. Nt Fiendish Thingy Apr 2022 #40

"Split" doesn't have to mean "Evenly Split." One disagreement from the rest is still a split. thesquanderer Apr 2022 #48

She didn't explicitly say that Novara Apr 2022 #26

Actually she is correct. The DOJ has enough evidence. They don't need the committees referral to JohnSJ Apr 2022 #28

+1 -K&R onetexan Apr 2022 #37

Thanx so much for pointing that out. Mr. Evil Apr 2022 #44

"People involved in the discussions said" always leaves me skeptical that the author has talked to Hoyt Apr 2022 #5

Have you read the linked article? Your questions are answered there. (n/t) thesquanderer Apr 2022 #9

Unfortunately it wants me to signup for a subscription, and I don't want to JohnSJ Apr 2022 #13

Here's a link to the full article thesquanderer Apr 2022 #50

Perfect. Thanks JohnSJ Apr 2022 #54

I guess they could kind of do what Mueller did, to similarly avoid seeming political... thesquanderer Apr 2022 #6

excellent point Novara Apr 2022 #29

Precisely, & hence why they need to muster up the moral strength & backbone to make the referral onetexan Apr 2022 #38

I'm not a betting man myself bucolic_frolic Apr 2022 #7

I REALLY wish they could find out who that was. Thats a BIG deal. oldsoftie Apr 2022 #20

Agree bucolic_frolic Apr 2022 #22

Any decision is going to be political dsc Apr 2022 #11

T H I S Cosmocat Apr 2022 #27

EXACTLY Novara Apr 2022 #31

Which Is The Precise Reason That NOBODY Is Going To Indict Him Or His Cohorts nt SoCalDavidS Apr 2022 #43

Careful--I've been scolded for my lack of faith in "The System" Orrex Apr 2022 #14

If they don't refer, they've made the decision that the President is above the law CanonRay Apr 2022 #15

nope. that is strictly your interpretation. stopdiggin Apr 2022 #32

Liz Cheney disputes this story Qutzupalotl Apr 2022 #16

Not really. thesquanderer Apr 2022 #64

"Liz Cheney disputes report January 6 panel split over Trump criminal referral" Botany Apr 2022 #17

Funny... she doesn't actually dispute it! thesquanderer Apr 2022 #51

traitor is the only one who thinks he is guiltless Marthe48 Apr 2022 #18

I'm fine either way if they do or don't make a criminal referral Fiendish Thingy Apr 2022 #21

+1. you got there first. -(nt)- stopdiggin Apr 2022 #25

are people completely missing ... ? stopdiggin Apr 2022 #24

if they don't refer and he is prosecuted the assholes will use their not referring Cosmocat Apr 2022 #30

good point Novara Apr 2022 #33

weak tea stopdiggin Apr 2022 #34

Who exactly are you talking to? Cosmocat Apr 2022 #53

what the R's say - doesn't mean beans to me stopdiggin Apr 2022 #60

x1000! Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #35

I really don't llashram Apr 2022 #36

if they don't they are admitting that trump is above the law. samsingh Apr 2022 #39

Not at all. The DOJ doesn't need any referral. They are supposedly doing their own investigation, JohnSJ Apr 2022 #41

nothing has come out of that either, after trump publicly states his treacherous guilt samsingh Apr 2022 #42

So you know what the DOJ is doing? You realize that the DOJ doesn't comment on on-going JohnSJ Apr 2022 #47

How do we know about other investigations they are doing if they don't comment? former9thward Apr 2022 #58

So you are saying the DOJ IS not investigating trump? Is that correct? JohnSJ Apr 2022 #59

The Watergate investigation took two years because the DOJ was in the hands former9thward Apr 2022 #62

I will bookmark this JohnSJ Apr 2022 #63

It will be easier for the Justice Department to do their job if all fingers point in the Baitball Blogger Apr 2022 #45

Republican traitors deserve justice Achilleaze Apr 2022 #46

Politically Tainting the Justice Dept? Neutered Goldstone Apr 2022 #56

so you approve of the machinations stopdiggin Apr 2022 #61

Fear of Trump. It is a thing. twodogsbarking Apr 2022 #57