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BumRushDaShow

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39. For them, it's better than nothing
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 08:34 PM
Jun 2022

and it's a reliable source of income although obviously not enough to sustain their current level of national functions, let alone trying to engage in a significant war.

However they do still have China, who has who knows how many engineers that can reproduce anything (and China is probably the biggest copyright, patent, and intellectual property violator in the world because of that).

They recently turned on a gas pipeline to China (in 2019) - https://www.spglobal.com/commodityinsights/es/market-insights/latest-news/natural-gas/120219-russia-starts-gas-deliveries-to-china-via-power-of-siberia



So China will make sure that stuff is flowing smoothly. That effort was initiated 8 years ago -

China, Russia sign $400 billion gas deal

By William Wan and Abigail Hauslohner
May 21, 2014

BEIJING — China signed a huge, long-awaited deal on Wednesday to buy Russian natural gas, giving Beijing a new source of clean energy and Moscow a diplomatic boost as it faces international sanctions for its aggressive actions in Ukraine.

With the stroke of a pen, Russia significantly shifted its economic relations with its neighbors, creating a major new export market to the east and reducing its reliance on European customers at a time when its relations with the West are at their lowest point since the Cold War. Russian President Vladimir Putin called the deal a “watershed event” and said implementation would start “tomorrow.”

The 30-year deal was announced after meetings in Shanghai between Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping. It is worth an estimated $400 billion, Alexei Miller, chief executive of the Russian energy giant Gazprom, told Russian reporters. The deal marked a new partnership between two countries that have at times mistrusted each other but have also sought to counter U.S. influence in global affairs.

China’s booming economy has created a growing need for energy, especially cleaner sources of power, given its reliance on coal, which has produced major pollution problems. The agreement allows Russia to diversify its gas exports at a time when the crisis in Ukraine has accelerated calls in Europe to rely less on energy supplies from Russia. Europe gets about 30 percent of its gas from Russia.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/china-russia-sign-400-billion-gas-deal/2014/05/21/364e9e74-e0de-11e3-8dcc-d6b7fede081a_story.html?hpid=z4


(i.e., the above was initiated after what happened when Russia invaded Crimea (resulting in sanctions), so Pootie had some backstop plans already in place when he invaded Ukraine again this year)

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I've been wondering about this wryter2000 Jun 2022 #1
I would certainly hope this must end DENVERPOPS Jun 2022 #32
They said this in March, April and May . They might be right by December. Srkdqltr Jun 2022 #2
they keep getting more oil money to fund their carnage. mucifer Jun 2022 #3
Oil prices are high now IronLionZion Jun 2022 #11
We could be working on that quakerboy Jun 2022 #13
Not much we can do, Russia is selling most their oil to China & India now. EX500rider Jun 2022 #19
They could be selling it all there quakerboy Jun 2022 #45
"we can supply our allies with our excess production and cut their need for buying russian oil" BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #21
Wonder how long they can keep up the fire sale..... paleotn Jun 2022 #37
For them, it's better than nothing BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #39
We can easily put a dent in oil usage blue-wave Jun 2022 #47
Yes, but it takes a lot of time to build new tanks, helicopters, etc. let alone replenish ammo stock machoneman Jun 2022 #20
Apparently China is buying a bunch Rural_Progressive Jun 2022 #14
Can't buy much of any use with the cash.... paleotn Jun 2022 #36
I checked this out NJCher Jun 2022 #6
Te former soviet union built up vast supplies of arms..... getagrip_already Jun 2022 #26
"Second, do you know who supplied them with those arms?" EX500rider Jun 2022 #31
From western components. paleotn Jun 2022 #38
But boy that sounds like a long hard time for Ukraine. calimary Jun 2022 #43
I hope so . ..... Lovie777 Jun 2022 #4
Good thing tfg isn't still in the White House, he'd allow putin to draft U.S. men and women. C Moon Jun 2022 #5
I'll march with you! NJCher Jun 2022 #7
:D C Moon Jun 2022 #10
And ship the Russkies our ammo and weapons. No doubt about it! machoneman Jun 2022 #22
LOL, NO SHIT DENVERPOPS Jun 2022 #33
Putin has exposed the weakness of his military LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2022 #8
That's the thing about bluffing - you can't actually show your hand. Jim__ Jun 2022 #15
Russia has combat capabilities? Lil Liberal Laura Jun 2022 #9
they are the second best military..... getagrip_already Jun 2022 #27
Russia has taken most of Luhansk, which includes prime farmland, industrial capacity, and a Martin68 Jun 2022 #12
Nad........ Lovie777 Jun 2022 #17
they wasted a enormous amount of their assets turning strategically irrelevant towns to rubble..... getagrip_already Jun 2022 #28
Thank you DENVERPOPS Jun 2022 #34
They are now getting ammo from Belarus.... BigmanPigman Jun 2022 #16
I remember seeing a story about a former soviet arms depot in belarus..... getagrip_already Jun 2022 #30
Sounds like both are scraping the bottom of the barrel. BigmanPigman Jun 2022 #41
All the more reason for NATO to send everything possible to help Ukraine now instead of Lonestarblue Jun 2022 #18
Reverse Stalingrad flashman13 Jun 2022 #23
This intelligence assessment appears accurate from an outsiders's point of view. LudwigPastorius Jun 2022 #24
And then counter-offensive time CloudWatcher Jun 2022 #25
Will the last Russian please turn the light at the end of the tunnel off . . . AndyS Jun 2022 #29
That moment can't come soon enough Raven123 Jun 2022 #35
Thank you all for an especially intelligent and informative comments section (one of many) housecat Jun 2022 #40
Heard this the first week of the invasion. BradAllison Jun 2022 #42
I have my doubts about this... See Syria for what modern war of attrition JCMach1 Jun 2022 #44
Every time I read something like this I say to myself: then why is Ukraine a field of rubble? Hekate Jun 2022 #46
Heckuva job Pooty Poot Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2022 #48
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