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ForgoTheConsequence

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45. Give me a break.

Thu Jan 19, 2012, 04:03 PM

Jan 2012

The factory is forcing them to sign pledges to NOT KILL THEMSELVES!

http://gawker.com/5548195/heres-the-apple+factory-suicide-pledge

And I wasn't talking about the recent suicide threats I was talking about the people who DID KILL THEMSELVES!
http://labornotes.org/blogs/2010/06/suicides-apple-factory-china-rock-sweatshop-supply-system

"A shocking 12 Foxconn workers have now ended their lives this year, mostly by jumping from the massive multi-story dormitories they live in during the precious few off hours they have. The crisis is so deep the company has installed safety nets between dorm buildings."

Do you think any company that was ruled by someone as anti union as Steve Jobs cares about labor conditions in China? If they cared about labor conditions they wouldn't be sitting on billions while paying workers pennies an hour.

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Apple Kills the Textbook with iBooks 2, iBooks Author [View all] onehandle Jan 2012 OP

Yes, but it also may mean Neandertodd and Bob and make their own backasswards book. originalpckelly Jan 2012 #1

It's up to the school systems to review books. The problem with textbook publishing... onehandle Jan 2012 #2

But that means Dyedinthewoolliberal Jan 2012 #87

There's an app for that. tblue37 Jan 2012 #110

Solid guess. RUMMYisFROSTED Jan 2012 #52

"No more books from Texas!" DontTreadOnMe Jan 2012 #3

Doubt this will fly. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #4

Bookmarked. nt onehandle Jan 2012 #5

Textbook loss, defacement, and damage is already a huge cost for school districts frazzled Jan 2012 #8

"Kids are not going to want to treat their iPads (or other tablets) like trash because they're fun" Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #12

And I came to the opposite conclusion joeglow3 Jan 2012 #16

The only answer to your complaint is a fully-sealed, spillproof tablet. Occulus Jan 2012 #114

Schools and colleges are already doing this obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #9

Seems like a rooted color Nook would be a MUCH better option. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #13

iBooks can include video and lots of other media, and the kids can develop their own iBooks for free emulatorloo Jan 2012 #30

A rooted Nook is powerful enough for what you have listed. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #32

Sounds good. emulatorloo Jan 2012 #37

You can think that all you'd like DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #106

I'm sure BN can make a minor tweak and allow iBooks to work on all Nooks. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #108

Sounds good DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #109

open source is going to be the way of the future for instruction. Textbook companies got too greedy yurbud Jan 2012 #57

I always bought used anyway. MedicalAdmin Jan 2012 #68

those K-12 textbooks aren't worth the paper they are printed on unless you run out of toilet paper yurbud Jan 2012 #135

I tell my students to order old editions of our textbooks, tblue37 Jan 2012 #111

And they'll have to do it again every 2-5 years as a result. (nt) Posteritatis Jan 2012 #71

this needs to happen, hopefully it is not just tied to a particular device though got root Jan 2012 #81

If it's Apple, then it will only work on Apple products. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #83

last i looked, iTunes ran on windows got root Jan 2012 #89

Yes, but an iPhone and iPod only work with iTunes. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #90

not to mention ALL pc's got root Jan 2012 #94

Because they want you to use an iPod. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #97

I prefer a walled garden to a jungle filled with malware and spyware emulatorloo Jan 2012 #121

Who doesn't like a monopoly? nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #122

Calling Apple a monopoly is silly emulatorloo Jan 2012 #129

Market share is large enough to be a virtual monopoly. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #132

Hopefully the authors of iBooks will be better informed than Mr. Schill. GeorgeGist Jan 2012 #6

Hasn't Barnes&Noble been doing Nook textbooks for... TreasonousBastard Jan 2012 #7

Yes obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #11

So, yet another idea Apple borrows and the world swoons at their genius. TreasonousBastard Jan 2012 #24

Apple was the first to combine video, sound, and text on an electronic device emulatorloo Jan 2012 #33

and the downloads will still cost $100 bucks an etextbook. LOL nt Javaman Jan 2012 #10

The first titles announced were sub-$15. The audience gasped at the low price. nt onehandle Jan 2012 #14

Gasped? I would have fainted. nt Javaman Jan 2012 #15

Obviously highly subsidized Spike89 Jan 2012 #29

Pearson, McGraw Hill, and Houghton Mifflin Harcourt (who sell 90% of textbooks) have signed up. onehandle Jan 2012 #34

Obviously not long, which is my point Spike89 Jan 2012 #61

Those investment costs won't enter into the equation, especially with the authoring software. Robb Jan 2012 #35

Lesson plans aren't textbooks Spike89 Jan 2012 #59

It's an interesting time. Robb Jan 2012 #60

Lesson plans vs textbooks usrname Jan 2012 #84

Exactly -- I thought of Smart Boards and sharing, too obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #62

you can't sell an e-book for beer money after finals....bummer....nt Evasporque Jan 2012 #22

There is that. Javaman Jan 2012 #38

You can always sell your plasma for beer money ... long after finals. SomeGuyInEagan Jan 2012 #73

selling plasma doing your bit for Big Pharma azurnoir Jan 2012 #116

On the other hand.... usrname Jan 2012 #86

At both the High School and College level exboyfil Jan 2012 #17

How much should the cost of an iPad be? nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #23

One title they talked about this morning will be released chapter by chapter. onehandle Jan 2012 #27

I would love to see desks turned into computers Marrah_G Jan 2012 #18

so we'll have grossly expensive e-textbooks with a time limit. provis99 Jan 2012 #19

First titles announced are sub-$15, get updates, are interactive, searchable, and are yours to keep. onehandle Jan 2012 #20

I bet those college professors will start writing text books for free joeglow3 Jan 2012 #21

It is a scam obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #63

It's a huge scam. MedicalAdmin Jan 2012 #69

You've nailed it! Spike89 Jan 2012 #70

Actually, I'm pretty sure that quakerboy Jan 2012 #95

Yep, the time limit and revocation abilities were the first thing to come to my mind. nt Poll_Blind Jan 2012 #104

I would be more optimistic if.... AlbertCat Jan 2012 #25

So what wil be the environmental cost? Why does that not get considered? snagglepuss Jan 2012 #26

Quite a bit... Fearless Jan 2012 #65

If it's an important course for your major -- buy the printed book. eppur_se_muova Jan 2012 #28

Once you buy the iBook, you own it and can re-download it whenever you want. onehandle Jan 2012 #31

Printed books don't contain video and audio, nor can they quiz you to see if you,ve got it emulatorloo Jan 2012 #36

Cool I guess. ForgoTheConsequence Jan 2012 #39

The workers threatening suicide make Microsoft XBOX 360s emulatorloo Jan 2012 #40

The device you are using right now was made by the same people. onehandle Jan 2012 #41

I'm aware. ForgoTheConsequence Jan 2012 #43

You built the CPU, Drive, Motherboard, Power, Fan, Keyboard, Monitor, Mouse, etc? onehandle Jan 2012 #51

I already admitted that. ForgoTheConsequence Jan 2012 #54

And Apple recently joined the Fair Labor Association, the first tech company to do so emulatorloo Jan 2012 #44

Give me a break. ForgoTheConsequence Jan 2012 #45

Read the article I linked, it addresses that. emulatorloo Jan 2012 #47

It didn't really, however address this... ForgoTheConsequence Jan 2012 #53

Thank you, your post almost brings a tear to my eye because newblewtoo Jan 2012 #85

Here's what I get. You use FOXCONN made products. emulatorloo Jan 2012 #100

What has Apple done so far to improve those conditions? Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #103

See the Reuters article above. See also "Supplier Responsibility" page at Apple site emulatorloo Jan 2012 #119

Yes, but what have they DONE? Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #120

Did you look at the apple page? There is a PDF Progress Report emulatorloo Jan 2012 #123

Yes, I looked at it. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #125

See my post above. I added a summary of the progress report. Here are some more links. emulatorloo Jan 2012 #126

These are so minor as to be humorous. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #130

That is an entirely different discussion emulatorloo Jan 2012 #134

Not sure what those other companies are supposed to do with it? Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #136

Clear case of Apple Derangement Syndrome. emulatorloo Jan 2012 #137

Fighting megacorps is what I live for. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #138

The PR is working. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #58

Lol n/t emulatorloo Jan 2012 #101

I wouldn't recommend that for 21st Century students - interactive, and always up-to-date got root Jan 2012 #77

I agree buying the main textbooks MichaelMcGuire Jan 2012 #117

They Will Still Charge a Fortune for College Textbooks Yavin4 Jan 2012 #42

The first titles announced were sub-$15. The audience gasped at the low price. onehandle Jan 2012 #48

I'd like to see "Open Source" textbooks. hunter Jan 2012 #46

I'm betting this WILL happen over the next 10-20 years obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #66

Is there any research comparing the average student's retention of material JDPriestly Jan 2012 #49

shhhhhsss!!! Locrian Jan 2012 #139

etextbooks still have a long way to go caraher Jan 2012 #50

This is nothing like that. onehandle Jan 2012 #55

Remember, Apple democratized the recording industry by putting inexpensive tools alfredo Jan 2012 #56

Yes, before Apple, no musician could afford a 4 track recorder. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #64

Lol +1 n/t azurnoir Jan 2012 #75

The tools I saw in Mac based studios were putting out sound as good as the big studios. alfredo Jan 2012 #96

Does anyone really believe that they won't hack the iBook Fearless Jan 2012 #67

What a ridiculous headline. (nt) Posteritatis Jan 2012 #72

Never before has an industry been destroyed by intentions such as these! Fearless Jan 2012 #74

If it 'bleeds' it leads with the lamestream, revolutionize would be more like it. got root Jan 2012 #80

Yeah, when I think "economical" I think Apple. nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #76

WOW! now thats the kind of invesment we need to be making for our children's future got root Jan 2012 #78

It is based on modern web standards, with no antiquated Flash to weigh it down. onehandle Jan 2012 #91

So basically, they've invented a way to download a web page? Dead_Parrot Jan 2012 #102

well this might be all well and good for collage level students but what happens at thr elementary azurnoir Jan 2012 #79

use the money they want to give charter schools w/no strings attached, and invest in public schools! got root Jan 2012 #82

well unfortunately "they" in this case usually own the charter schools azurnoir Jan 2012 #115

Apple iBooks Author: Top 10 Limitations progressoid Jan 2012 #88

That pretty much says it all right there. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #92

Yes. With those 'limitations' Apple will never get anywhere. onehandle Jan 2012 #93

iTunes had a virtual monopoly for quite a while. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #98

I wish Amazon's audio sounded better emulatorloo Jan 2012 #128

I've had no problem with Amazon's mp3's. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #133

I don't like the iTunes compression either, gives me a headache emulatorloo Jan 2012 #140

Ha! alfredo Jan 2012 #99

The limitations are placed on the authors by Apple progressoid Jan 2012 #107

2GB limit? Split your book into volumes emulatorloo Jan 2012 #131

Was Dean Kamen on hand? nt Poll_Blind Jan 2012 #105

Sounds like these will be accessible through Voiceover suffragette Jan 2012 #112

This is fascinating! Apple could very well save education. Firebrand Gary Jan 2012 #113

i have books that are 120-50 years old madrchsod Jan 2012 #118

What a boon for foxconn xxqqqzme Jan 2012 #124

List of FOXCONN's major clients emulatorloo Jan 2012 #127