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paleotn

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11. Not this crap again....
Sun Jul 24, 2022, 10:54 AM
Jul 2022

Meant more for western media oohhhs and Aaaaas than anything actually useful or cutting edge.

- Propulsion appears to be the usual, skewback screws (propellers) normally found on an Oscar class. The screws themselves look kind of small. Smaller screws must rotate faster at any given speed than a larger screw. Faster rotation means more bubbles, more cavitation and more noise, regardless of actual screw design. Surely the operational screws will be bigger. Nice touch covering them though, like it's something super duper secret.

- Didn't even attempt a much quieter propulser. We and the Brits moved away from conventional screws on nuclear powered boats years ago. There's only so far you can go noise reduction wise with an exposed screw. The Russians outfitted a diesel-electric Kilo with a propulser some time ago. Borei class have them. Can't get it to work properly on a twin screw Oscar? So much for "research platform."

- The technology required for a truly stealthy, super fast, super extreme long range torpedo tipped with anything does not exist. Even for the US and China, who actually DO have deep pockets, it's still conceptual only. The technological hurdles are immense. But, but, but...it's got a nuclear warhead!!1!111!!!! So what. So did the old diesel Foxtrots the Soviets sorted during the Cuban Missile Crises.

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As obscene as any war machine. Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2022 #1
A research vessel eh? Shermann Jul 2022 #2
Aren't both sides, always? America has $850 billion reasons a year to keep up appearances. Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2022 #3
But what niche does such a platform fill? It doesn't. ffr Jul 2022 #4
Destroying carrier groups, I bet. XorXor Jul 2022 #30
That's what they'd hope, but.... Happy Hoosier Jul 2022 #32
The bigger they are, the harder they fall purr-rat beauty Jul 2022 #5
The longest submarine ever says something about the psychology of the architects. Chainfire Jul 2022 #6
Good one, Chainfire. Firestorm49 Jul 2022 #9
Bingo. paleotn Jul 2022 #10
The Russian military is mostly about intimidation, not capability. Happy Hoosier Jul 2022 #33
Psychology/ propaganda of military speech in general...we got the biggest Nukes! Waaay big! Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2022 #14
Sometimes a submarine is just a cigar. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2022 #20
Hard to launch torpedoes from the ocean floor maxrandb Jul 2022 #7
If not a US asset, then most certainly a NATO asset. MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #29
Russia wanted both a global navy and a world class army. In trying to get both they got half of each Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2022 #8
On the cheap too, not even counting the grift. They've got neither. paleotn Jul 2022 #12
And they don't have the budget to logistical expertise for either. Happy Hoosier Jul 2022 #34
Not this crap again.... paleotn Jul 2022 #11
The Poseidon nuclear torpedo is desined to carry a 100 megaton bomb. speak easy Jul 2022 #13
Unreal...the world military is the most danger to civilians the world over. Exhibit 1 here of many Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2022 #16
And what would happen to the sub if it was anywhere within Mr.Bill Jul 2022 #21
Think thousands of miles speak easy Jul 2022 #31
Russia always goes for the big flashy military projects, while the rest of their army suffers: DetlefK Jul 2022 #15
Not forgetting the upgraded ICBMs speak easy Jul 2022 #17
All in on the wunderwaffe NotASurfer Jul 2022 #18
They are running out of world's longest submarines to scrap Beastly Boy Jul 2022 #19
Mankind at its worst. Time for other countries to twodogsbarking Jul 2022 #22
Given Russia's quality control and training standards, I would not be surprised if it joined the artemisia1 Jul 2022 #23
That's just great. More nuclear arms weapons races and development. Los Alamos scientists were Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #24
Crazy ain't it. twodogsbarking Jul 2022 #26
Mind-numbingly insane. Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #27
Maybe its first mission could be to... LudwigPastorius Jul 2022 #25
I remember when that ship was touted as the big, scary "carrier killer" NT Happy Hoosier Jul 2022 #35
Given what we've learned of Russia's military capabilities, just one question: hatrack Jul 2022 #28
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