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In reply to the discussion: U.N. complaint alleges illegal pressure on Spain to stop Bush torture trials [View all]sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)1. They will have to start pressuring the French judicial system. A French Judge
is asking for documentation regarding Guantanamo detainees also seeking justice.
http://www.alternet.org/rss/breaking_news/763279/french_judge_seeks__guantanamo_access_over_%27torture%27/

French judge Sophie Clément, is pictured in 2008 in her office in Paris.
Judge Sophie Clement wants permission from the US authorities to inspect and copy all documents relating to the three men and to interview all persons who had contact with them there, according to legal documents seen by AFP.
The judge requested access to "all documents relating to the justification and modalities of (US) armed operations in Afghanistan and Pakistan and to the treatment of persons arrested during these operations," the documents said.
The three Frenchmen who made the accusations -- Mourad Benchellali, Nizar Sassi and Khaled Ben Mustapha -- were arrested in late 2001 on the Afghan-Pakistani border and sent to Guantanamo.
They were allowed to return to France in 2004 and 2005 and were detained for periods of between 11 and 17 months.
.......
A lawyer representing two of the men, William Bourdon, said judge Clement's request to US authorities was "without precedent and should enable us to identify those responsible for this arbitrary detention and torture."
The judge requested access to "all documents relating to the justification and modalities of (US) armed operations in Afghanistan and Pakistan and to the treatment of persons arrested during these operations," the documents said.
The three Frenchmen who made the accusations -- Mourad Benchellali, Nizar Sassi and Khaled Ben Mustapha -- were arrested in late 2001 on the Afghan-Pakistani border and sent to Guantanamo.
They were allowed to return to France in 2004 and 2005 and were detained for periods of between 11 and 17 months.
.......
A lawyer representing two of the men, William Bourdon, said judge Clement's request to US authorities was "without precedent and should enable us to identify those responsible for this arbitrary detention and torture."
There will probably be more countries asking for justice for their citizens. The US should have taken care of this and countries like Spain did wait until Bush was out of office to give the US an opportunity to do so it is clear this will not happen now. But the victims are all over the world, and until justice is done, this will not go away.
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U.N. complaint alleges illegal pressure on Spain to stop Bush torture trials [View all]
kpete
Jan 2012
OP
"Which American side are you thinking about?" There is only one such "side" in the end as
cstanleytech
Jan 2012
#24
No...a dream world would be believing Obama had a magic wand and could fix the country
cstanleytech
Jan 2012
#27
There are so many splits in this country, so stoked by so many, that to jump on the splits
Lionessa
Jan 2012
#28
Yeah, because if Obama got out of the way of the Spanish judges and did NOT pressure them
fasttense
Jan 2012
#30
"allegations of improper influence...authored by the Bush and Obama administrations..." Wrong side,
Lionessa
Jan 2012
#12
Except the issue isnt about our treatment of other countries but rather did he break the law and
cstanleytech
Jan 2012
#19
Yeah, secrets like the Obama administration (not just Bush) interfering with the judicial process.
EFerrari
Jan 2012
#16
Oh, please enlighten me on how if Manning provided this information to wikileaks that he
cstanleytech
Jan 2012
#20
Oh, please enlighten me on how if Daniel Ellsberg provided this information to the NYT that he
_ed_
Jan 2012
#33
A frame that allows you to skirt the Obama administration's culpability entirely.
EFerrari
Jan 2012
#36