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24. Capital punishment

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:20 PM

Nov 2012

will never make a murderer pay the ultimate price. Murderer's dead, his troubles are over. There is no true justice to be had for a murder victim's family. There is only one thing that could that could be justice..if the death of the murderer brought his victims back to life. That's not happening. So, IMO we should call capital punishment what it really is....revenge, and live with the ugliness that word describes.

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Gabrielle Giffords confronts shooter Jared Lee Loughner in court [View all] IDemo Nov 2012 OP

They treated him with way too much respect Stainless Nov 2012 #1

Execution would just make him a Tea Party martyr Ken Burch Nov 2012 #2

"Execution would just make him a Tea Party martyr" PavePusher Nov 2012 #27

You Know Some Tea Party People? Paladin Nov 2012 #30

Imagine, an American knowing members of a major American political movement. How scandalous. Posteritatis Nov 2012 #39

Oddly, I don't insulate myself completely from others, even ones I disagree with. PavePusher Nov 2012 #43

P.S. PavePusher Nov 2012 #44

OK, then-executing him would just bring the rest of us down to his level. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #52

I disagree. Hatred holds you hostage, and killing someone does no one any good. nolabear Nov 2012 #3

Execution prevents someone from killing again, doesn't it? MicaelS Nov 2012 #11

That, of course, may be true only if you execute the right person. GodlessBiker Nov 2012 #21

You're dodging my main question. MicaelS Nov 2012 #28

Many states have eliminated the death penalty. What do they do if a lifer commits murder in prison? GodlessBiker Nov 2012 #40

Capital punishment kurtzapril4 Nov 2012 #24

Yet Canada, France, the UK, Germany, Italy, Spain, Australia, the Netherlands, NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #25

Solitary in a super maximum security prison is what usually happens Ash_F Nov 2012 #36

agreed! fascisthunter Nov 2012 #48

He's clearly very mentally disturbed IfPalinisAnswerWatsQ Nov 2012 #6

He's not so disturbed that he doesn't know right from wrong slackmaster Nov 2012 #7

How do you know that? antigone382 Nov 2012 #14

My statement is based on the court's determination slackmaster Nov 2012 #15

Well, in this case he plead out. antigone382 Nov 2012 #18

I agree with you ... Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #33

No, that is ridiculous IfPalinisAnswerWatsQ Nov 2012 #17

OK, point 1: Anders Brevik will not get out in 20 years. antigone382 Nov 2012 #19

I'm recommending your post, antigone. Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #34

I already said Loughner was mentally ill IfPalinisAnswerWatsQ Nov 2012 #46

I think it depends...though I don't know how often we do that. antigone382 Nov 2012 #47

If one of Sandusky's victims exacted revenge IfPalinisAnswerWatsQ Nov 2012 #50

I would not say that I object to live without parole in all cases. antigone382 Nov 2012 #51

If you think that about Breivik you need to actually read some about their system. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2012 #38

IfPalinisAnswerWatsQ Diclotican Nov 2012 #41

The young man who committed those horrors... TinkerTot55 Nov 2012 #31

It's nice that this wasn't one of those "forgiveness meetings" LeftinOH Nov 2012 #4

Of course, if it was, the survivors' opinions would matter rather more than ours. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2012 #37

No more legal purchases of assault clips for him. nt onehandle Nov 2012 #5

Prepare Yourself For Incoming Gun Enthusiasts...... Paladin Nov 2012 #9

Ok that is one tough woman. yellowcanine Nov 2012 #8

Well said Mr Kelly YankeyMCC Nov 2012 #10

You know, I'm kind of saddened by this thread. antigone382 Nov 2012 #12

Very well said libodem Nov 2012 #16

You are not alone, antigone. The streets of America are filled with those suffering mental illnesses Melinda Nov 2012 #22

I remember when reagun did that. Who knows what amount of tragedy efhmc Nov 2012 #26

That might have even been part of solution to the problem before it happened nolabels Nov 2012 #29

A Tea Party warrior? I think not. burnsei sensei Nov 2012 #32

Bravo to you for having the courage to speak up. Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #35

Thank you for your support on my posts, Fantastic Anarchist! antigone382 Nov 2012 #49

I hold the Tea Party ultimately responsible meow2u3 Nov 2012 #13

I lay this tragedy and the Oklahoma city bombing at the feet of efhmc Nov 2012 #20

Don't forget Sarah Palin, who famously published a graphic with Giffords' district Tanuki Nov 2012 #23

Loughner was sentenced to life imprisonment. Major Hogwash Nov 2012 #42

Republicans won't do a thing because it was a Democrat that was the target. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #45