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csziggy

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55. With the death penalty, he would still spend much of his life in prison
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 11:38 AM
Oct 2022

As appeals worked their way through the courts. And that still would not guarantee that he would ever be put to death. Although he might eventually get the release of death, it would not be a quick release - as it used to be.

I used to be pro-death penalty until I realized that it is far too often given to the wrong person. Or if the right person is convicted, they are not quickly eliminated from society because the system has to make sure that the wrong person is not killed. Death without parole is kinder to society but a much more dire existence for the perpetrator.

Life without parole means he will never have the chance to get a release, whether from death or some change in his status allowing him out. He will forever be locked up in a cell. And the general public can forget he ever existed - though his victims and their families cannot.

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Should have got the death penalty. Meadowoak Oct 2022 #1
Agreed The Grand Illuminist Oct 2022 #61
Definitely nt Raine Oct 2022 #92
Curious to know the jury split. Tommy Carcetti Oct 2022 #2
i dunno...my grandmother was a murder victim and IF they had ever found the guy who did it samnsara Oct 2022 #4
His guilt was never at issue. Tommy Carcetti Oct 2022 #6
That's Your Opinion SoCalDavidS Oct 2022 #12
There's really not any circumstances where I see it as warranted. Tommy Carcetti Oct 2022 #19
Agree To Disagree SoCalDavidS Oct 2022 #24
Vote Was 11-1 In Favor Of Death SoCalDavidS Oct 2022 #59
Our Tampa news stations reported the jury vote was 9-3. 24601 Oct 2022 #93
The penalty phase is a required part of a trial csziggy Oct 2022 #28
agreed gopiscrap Oct 2022 #43
Peace to her mahina Oct 2022 #13
im watching a delayed version i guess as so far they all say hes eligible for death sentence samnsara Oct 2022 #3
The People He Murdered Are The Ones Who Got The Death Sentence SoCalDavidS Oct 2022 #17
It's time to move on from "an eye for an eye" BuddhaGirl Oct 2022 #56
I am confused. SuperCoder Oct 2022 #5
A death sentence required a unanimous verdict. Tommy Carcetti Oct 2022 #9
Note the update - there were multiple verdicts and now the report is at least one is for "death" BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #18
in florida? wow catsudon Oct 2022 #7
You don't know much about Broward County, do you? Tommy Carcetti Oct 2022 #10
Apparently this was a multi-part verdict and at least one charge received a penalty of "death" BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #14
If a law makes execution possible, does it create a "need" or duty to execute? Hortensis Oct 2022 #22
Do we thirst for justice or vengeance? nt hay rick Oct 2022 #8
Vengeance. That's the Christian way. Lonestarblue Oct 2022 #16
LOL. Now I remember why I haven't been to church in recent decades. hay rick Oct 2022 #23
If that's true sarisataka Oct 2022 #31
Yes, it's not just "Christians" and Repubicans. hay rick Oct 2022 #58
NOTE UPDATE - One charge was for "death" and the others "life" BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Tommy Carcetti Oct 2022 #15
Really? SoCalDavidS Oct 2022 #21
All the initial breakings were "life", then they switched to "death' BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #25
Why would one of the deaths meet the standard, but not the others? niyad Oct 2022 #20
I think there were aggravating factors in one case SheltieLover Oct 2022 #30
Just got in from walking the dogs. WinstonSmith4740 Oct 2022 #26
God...life in prison... SuperCoder Oct 2022 #27
You're blaming "red states" on the refusal to impose the death penalty? Tommy Carcetti Oct 2022 #34
No, life in prison is a worst sentence than death csziggy Oct 2022 #44
Nonsense ...If that were true he would have begged for the d.p. instead of life without Fullduplexxx Oct 2022 #53
With the death penalty, he would still spend much of his life in prison csziggy Oct 2022 #55
Sorry, I have to LOL at the irony sarisataka Oct 2022 #46
Interesting times, my friend XorXor Oct 2022 #70
So which is it? The title said death but the update says life? you should edit question everything Oct 2022 #29
The OP's headline is wrong obamanut2012 Oct 2022 #33
Looks as if news keeps updating the story. SheltieLover Oct 2022 #35
Nobody's pardoning Nicolas Cruz. Tommy Carcetti Oct 2022 #37
One never knows. SheltieLover Oct 2022 #41
Yes, they'll pardon Nikolas Cruz. Tommy Carcetti Oct 2022 #45
Consider that KY Gov who pardoned a bunch of people who committed brutal crimes SheltieLover Oct 2022 #51
Jury recommends life without parole, shooter avoids death penalty Shanti Shanti Shanti Oct 2022 #40
LBN rules state the header must show the actual headline obamanut2012 Oct 2022 #32
Then it should be locked and start a new one question everything Oct 2022 #36
The source is correct -- the OP's is wrong obamanut2012 Oct 2022 #39
Yes - they have updated it multiple times (as have AP and CNN) BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #38
The link you provide to Reuter's has a title that says "sentenced to life" - Earthrise Oct 2022 #42
Yes - they (along with CNN and others) are reacting to verdicts for "counts" - updated again BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #49
ADDITIONAL UPDATE - various news sources are reacting to charges for different counts BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #47
The verdict is life without parole, although the sentencing hearing was put off to Nov 1 JudyM Oct 2022 #48
In dynamic situations sarisataka Oct 2022 #50
Oh I know BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #54
Did do his Rittenhouse cry ...." help others " good lord 🙄 Fullduplexxx Oct 2022 #52
Fake empathy conned some of the jurors. honest.abe Oct 2022 #65
The state does that for a lot of people. Tommy Carcetti Oct 2022 #67
"overselling prison life" ?? honest.abe Oct 2022 #68
I mean... Tommy Carcetti Oct 2022 #72
Beats homeless and living on the streets. I wouldnt be surprised if he got some Netfilx movie deal. honest.abe Oct 2022 #74
Okay but stop acting like prison life is so luxurious. Tommy Carcetti Oct 2022 #75
Who said its luxurious?? honest.abe Oct 2022 #76
You seemed to imply it was. Tommy Carcetti Oct 2022 #78
I did not. honest.abe Oct 2022 #79
He pleaded guilty. Tommy Carcetti Oct 2022 #81
So no case have ever been overturned when a someone pleaded guilty? honest.abe Oct 2022 #83
Please stop conflating television drama for reality. Tommy Carcetti Oct 2022 #86
Ok I simply disagree with you. honest.abe Oct 2022 #87
Anna Sorokin was paid $320,000 to adapt her life story of how she scammed the rich. honest.abe Oct 2022 #77
First of all, she's a financial scammer who served three years of a sentence. Tommy Carcetti Oct 2022 #80
Its still a valid possibility and that's why the evil creep should be executed. honest.abe Oct 2022 #82
No. It's not valid. None of what you are claiming is valid. Tommy Carcetti Oct 2022 #84
If it was your child slaughtered with bullet holes in their head would you feel the same way? honest.abe Oct 2022 #85
I honestly don't know. Tommy Carcetti Oct 2022 #88
There is no good outcome. twodogsbarking Oct 2022 #57
Should've been dead 3 years ago. We never properly punish terrorists. oldsoftie Oct 2022 #60
Agreed Owl Oct 2022 #90
Curious: what is the cost of keeping him in prison on a life sentence, vs. the cost of niyad Oct 2022 #62
Thank heavens they don't allow conjugal visits anymore bedazzled Oct 2022 #63
Three jurors spared him - NYT tonekat Oct 2022 #64
You do understand the concept of prison, don't you? nt Tommy Carcetti Oct 2022 #66
Good for the three who voted 'no'. Voltaire2 Oct 2022 #69
I frankly don't think the state or country need to be in the business of killing their citizens. BigDemVoter Oct 2022 #71
Awhile ago I came to the conclusion that I am opposed to the DP even in cases where I wish I wasn't XorXor Oct 2022 #73
As a note about this BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #89
Good. The death Penalty is wrong in all instances. Gore1FL Oct 2022 #91
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