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lalalu

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27. Amnesty and a path to citizenship are not the same.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:29 PM
Nov 2012

Pretending it is just semantics is false. Either democrats get in front of this issue and define it or they can sit back and let republicans do so. So often democrats sit back and play catch up with republicans because they are too worried about offending. The truth is that democrats have kicked this issue down the road just as much as republicans.

Border security is not a right or left issue. When amnesty was passed it was bipartisan with a guarantee of border security. Even labor went along because they felt the economy could absorb those who were here and securing the border would prevent this from happening again. It is not a coincidence that illegal immigration and hiring illegal labor increased after labor and civil rights laws had been passed and implemented. It is a corporate tool to drive down wages and rollback labor rights.

There are going to have to be two paths and democrats need to face that reality and start planning now. Children brought here and their parents will not get the same pathway. Now how it gets done and whether there is the will to actually get it done is the key factor. Time for congress to stop playing games and get it done.

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Do it. I want PBO to be on the TV asking everyone to call their Congress critter to pass it. Vincardog Nov 2012 #1
It is still dicey. lalalu Nov 2012 #2
You can't place limits on the rights of naturalized US Citizens. Violates Equal Protection. leveymg Nov 2012 #3
LOL, I don't like "swarthy brown people"? lalalu Nov 2012 #4
Ok. Why then do you want to limit the ability of naturalized citizens to sponsor relatives? leveymg Nov 2012 #5
The Dream Act would be amnesty and can have limitations. lalalu Nov 2012 #6
Yes, on their initial legalized status. But, no limits can extend after people naturalize. leveymg Nov 2012 #7
The Dream Act would be an exception. lalalu Nov 2012 #8
Many immigrants are allowed to legalize their status with various waivers as it is. DREAM doesn't leveymg Nov 2012 #9
Wrong lalalu Nov 2012 #10
Most of this arguments fail to address the problem AlphaCentauri Nov 2012 #11
There is reality. lalalu Nov 2012 #12
and reality check AlphaCentauri Nov 2012 #20
You are checking nothing lalalu Nov 2012 #22
Did you even read the article? lunamagica Nov 2012 #13
Univision and Telemundo? lalalu Nov 2012 #14
I read your post. Looks like you didn't read the article lunamagica Nov 2012 #15
It isn't about what i think. lalalu Nov 2012 #16
No don't think it's OK. But it is what millions of Latinos watch lunamagica Nov 2012 #17
Again you should go back and read. lalalu Nov 2012 #18
Well, then, I guess Obama made a big mistake in not consulting you before spending so much money on lunamagica Nov 2012 #19
Once again you post an article about a Hispanic lalalu Nov 2012 #23
Seriously? My view of Hispanics comes from being one lunamagica Nov 2012 #24
Most Hispanics? lalalu Nov 2012 #25
"Amnesty is completely different from a path to citizenship." Comrade Grumpy Nov 2012 #29
Yes it is completely different. lalalu Nov 2012 #30
55% of repubs, 75% of Democrats but only 46% of teabaggers support a path to citizenship pampango Nov 2012 #21
I believe you've just outed that one. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #26
Reality will show you what the lalalu Nov 2012 #32
Amnesty and a path to citizenship are not the same. lalalu Nov 2012 #27
Wow, I just read this. Wonderful post! lunamagica Nov 2012 #28
Here is proof. lalalu Nov 2012 #31
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