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bread_and_roses

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36. Nor is 90% of the electorate
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:09 PM
Nov 2012

Some posters* around here like to sneer at the electorate but what are people - people who have jobs (often 2 or 3 jobs), kids, school, aging parents to care for - in other words, no time to research issues and read entire Congressional Bills (as I have seen posters here exhort others to do) - what is the ordinary person to think when even NPR spouts nothing but the Beltway groupspeak and neoliberal economics?

It wasn't just "Democrats and Progressives" who put Obama over the top in '08 - it was union members - many of whom I know for a fact are neither Democrats nor progressive - it was young people and first time voters with no history by which we could judge them part of the Dem "base" or progressive. It was Greens and even some Rs voting against their own candidate. They voted for a vision. And they voted for accountability. And for two years nothing much happened, and most of all the calls - the yells, the rallies and signs in the streets and petitions and more rallies and and and to "make the Banks pay" - were ignored. For just once, people had a pretty clear understanding of just who had screwed them, and they wanted (figurative) blood. They wanted the Banksters to pay, and the people to get something back.

We all know what happened on that front. So no, the people who voted in (or by whatever omissions allowed to be voted in) the Teabaggers were not lazy and complacent, and disappointed is too weak a word. They were savagely angry, and had a right to be. That their anger was manipulated by the right does not vitiate that.

I worked on a losing Congressional campaign in '10 - one of the winners in the '08 sweep, a "moderate" Blue-doggish Dem who disappointed even those of us who knew in '08 (I worked that campaign for him too) that he was no Dennis K. and would have to be ridden and herded hard. None the less, and despite my own disgust with the lot of the Dems, I worked to keep the Teabagger out. We lost - like so many others.

We lost because we have a system that works to make sure that people think that the only road to change is to change the letter behind the critter in DC., that if you're unhappy with the state of affairs, vote the other way next time.

The Dems have no one but themselves to blame for '10. I just fervently hope they learned something from it.

*that does not necessarily refer to the poster to who's quote I am responding. The quote to which I am responding sneers at those of us who felt that Obama had not lived up to his '08 campaign - not necessarily the entire electorate. I went off on a tangent, as I so often do.

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YES!!!! Good on you, Florida (for once)... and screw you, Allen West hlthe2b Nov 2012 #1
Whoot! Awe-----some, awesome! ffr Nov 2012 #2
Cool! politicasista Nov 2012 #3
west acts like a spoiled brat cyclezealot Nov 2012 #4
This just popped up... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #31
yeah heaven05 Nov 2012 #5
Alan Grayson back and Allen West GONE BlueToTheBone Nov 2012 #6
Music to my ears! spartan61 Nov 2012 #17
I love it! Joey Liberal Nov 2012 #25
Whom The Gods Would Destroy, They First Make Mad. Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #7
He's been mad (insane) lol Blue4Texas Nov 2012 #26
Yay Paulie Nov 2012 #8
Oddball ex-congressman won't give it up Loge23 Nov 2012 #9
Alan West went South along time ago, what's wrong with Floridians to elect these jerks (Walker too)? xtraxritical Nov 2012 #32
K&R (nt) muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #10
hit the road you teabagging piece of SHIT Skittles Nov 2012 #11
Get a job--a real job, not slinging shit on FOX. nt SDjack Nov 2012 #15
AMF! SCVDem Nov 2012 #12
Are you kidding? He would be the chairman. xtraxritical Nov 2012 #33
Hedge-head gets trimmed. Beautiful. TheCowsCameHome Nov 2012 #13
West is Sore Loser Man. Indpndnt Nov 2012 #14
Crybaby west will never concede. Hopefully he'll never again be a congressman either. caveat_imperator Nov 2012 #16
Martha Davis and her Spouse said it best Anthony McCarthy Nov 2012 #18
what an amazing find SemperEadem Nov 2012 #49
This IS as GOD has preordained it to be.... BadGimp Nov 2012 #19
I agree with one qualification AAO Nov 2012 #24
Nor is 90% of the electorate bread_and_roses Nov 2012 #36
Thank you for that footnote!! AAO Nov 2012 #47
Please repost this...... blue sky at night Nov 2012 #51
Will he ever concede? AAO Nov 2012 #20
For West fifthoffive Nov 2012 #21
I got spam email about this race, from West's campaign 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #22
Awesome! Up2Late Nov 2012 #23
West refuses to concede. elleng Nov 2012 #27
This is the way back to sanity. Thinkingabout Nov 2012 #28
Does anyone living in those three counties have a good drycleaner that they can recommend..... left on green only Nov 2012 #29
As much as I savor Rmoney and Lyin-Ryan's defeat..... Swede Atlanta Nov 2012 #30
I was really hoping for Bachmann's defeat, too - maybe next time around wordpix Nov 2012 #44
World Nut Daily and the Moony Times are claiming fraud.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #34
Is this legal? Hokie Nov 2012 #50
Consider the source, it's probably pure fiction. WND was Birther Central. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #53
Goodbye Allen. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out sakabatou Nov 2012 #35
LOL!!! The Freepers are now claiming massive voter fraud!!! Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #37
Anything we say, they copy. Loge23 Nov 2012 #40
These idiots claim all those people who stood in line for 8 hours during early voting,... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #41
The only possible explanation... Loge23 Nov 2012 #42
Good Work! Happy Holidays, all! Celebrate community! & Families! nt patrice Nov 2012 #38
So what is the score already? nolabels Nov 2012 #39
YAY!!!! wordpix Nov 2012 #43
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I wanted Cantor and Ryan gone too but this helpisontheway Nov 2012 #48
AP, Fox and CBS Reporting recount in St. Lucie County MNJon Nov 2012 #52
Try actually reading the article at the link you posted, please. Melinda Nov 2012 #54
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His people are scrambling around trying to buy judges. Mr.Bill Nov 2012 #57
This will give him more time to ride with his biker gang Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #56
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