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Emrys

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24. The video mentioned in the OP, with English subtitles [Twitter]:
Wed Nov 30, 2022, 10:47 AM
Nov 2022


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Hey @SergAibertich, here's your video [ai] translated from Russian as requested by @57thOverlanders.

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[Twitter video]


I disturbed myself last night by reading around the prevalence of prison culture in more mainstream Russian society. I knew Putin was a jumped-up gangster, but I hadn't joined the dots laid out for me.

In brief, there are two broad factions in the Russian criminal fraternity - those who are opposed to the state (like Grisha), and others (like Prigozhin and Kadyrov) who have thrown their lot in with it as allies and profited, but nevertheless could pose threats to the current regime.

What follows is not pleasant, and if you're prone to triggering or in a work environment, you've been warned.

The Russian criminal hierarchy ranges from "thieves-in-law" at the top to "cocks" at the bottom. Rape is endemic in Russian prisons, and is not equated with homosexuality if you're a "top". It's seen as a method of enforcement and punishment. At the bottom of the hierarchy are "cocks", who once they've been raped are regarded as untouchable except for sexual purposes.

The turf war inside Russia is developing as ex-inmate Sasha Kurara posted the two videos posted below, in which he claims that he was in prison with Prigozhin many years ago, and that Prigozhin was a "cock" and served him sexually.



Dmitri
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A Russian man who introduces himself as an ex-convict who served sentence with Wagner's Prigozhyn claims the latter was providing sexual services to other prisoners.

[Twitter video]




Dmitri
@wartranslated

So there's more to the story with the ex-convict who claims Prigozhyn was adventurous in prison. There's a second video where the man confidently confirms his statements.

[Twitter video]


Making these inflammatory claims that, if accepted, are terminal to Prigozhin's reputation among the criminal fraternity, is obviously a very dangerous business, but Kurara doesn't seem concerned and offers to meet anyone angered by his claims (by implication, henchmen of Prigozhin) at a location of their choosing. Undercutting Prigozhin in this way could serve the purposes of many, including Putin, who may foresee a threat to his power from the influence of the Wagner Group.

I'd foreseen the possibility of ethnic civil war in the Russian Federation as a result of the war in Ukraine's failure. These turf wars add another dimension.
In that fascist regimes don't last too long, one might think Putin might be an eyeopener ... marble falls Nov 2022 #1
+1 H2O Man Nov 2022 #4
I agree. Duncanpup Nov 2022 #16
What happens when you try to take another country and people living there object to it Warpy Nov 2022 #8
Recommended. H2O Man Nov 2022 #2
Kick & recommend for visibility bronxiteforever Nov 2022 #3
Kick n/t StormKing Nov 2022 #5
Sounds like the beginning of the end for Putin. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2022 #6
Agreed and hopeful yankee87 Nov 2022 #14
Might be. Igel Nov 2022 #20
Wagner is to Putin as MAGA is to the GOP Torchlight Nov 2022 #7
Excellent analogy. ananda Nov 2022 #9
Imagine if you are a Russian victim of a violent crime from a Russian mafia hire that is now free? LiberalLovinLug Nov 2022 #10
Yeah, well.. hey, 'nobody likes a snitch'.. Oooph! especially the new RU gub'mnt.. n/t TeamProg Nov 2022 #12
Will China and Iran play with mob bosses? Hope we never find out! TeamProg Nov 2022 #11
The monsters you create Grimelle Nov 2022 #13
IDK: I believe there will be a lot people falling out of windows before that happens. C Moon Nov 2022 #15
And they'll have nukes NBachers Nov 2022 #17
Just curious but.... fantase56 Nov 2022 #18
interesting republianmushroom Nov 2022 #19
France endured quite a bit of unrest between 1789 and 1870 Kennah Nov 2022 #21
Is there anything left of Russia short of organized crime, the Mob? ffr Nov 2022 #22
Kick Omaha Steve Nov 2022 #23
The video mentioned in the OP, with English subtitles [Twitter]: Emrys Nov 2022 #24
The Wagner Group are international terrorists. milestogo Nov 2022 #25
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