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32. Do you really think they are so separate all the time?

Tue Dec 6, 2022, 11:19 AM

Dec 2022

On paper, sure. But in reality large corporations (their investor-owners, really) could be said to own many members of our government. And our government has been so privatized over the years that without corporations it would be incapable of doing most if not many of its primary functions. It's not like airlines - who let's not forget keep getting gifted with truly staggering amounts of taxpayer funded monies - are going to ever say no to a government request for a passenger manifest. In a very practical sense, like a defense contractor they are nearly a part of the government as they would fail without it.

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Real ID requirement for air travel delayed, again [View all] brooklynite Dec 2022 OP

when do we get to stop taking our shoes off? Blues Heron Dec 2022 #1

$85 for five years isn't profit making. brooklynite Dec 2022 #2

That doesnt seem so bad, somehow I thought it was a yearly thing Blues Heron Dec 2022 #4

CLEAR (a private company) charges annually brooklynite Dec 2022 #5

Thanks, might have to look into this for future travel. Blues Heron Dec 2022 #6

Totally worth it if you travel much at all genxlib Dec 2022 #9

I have the TSA pre-screen but have still had to take off my shoes... 3catwoman3 Dec 2022 #13

When you're 75. llmart Dec 2022 #3

If I buy a seat on a plane, train, bus, or boat -- why should the govenment know ? Dorn Dec 2022 #7

If your plane is hijacked, do you want the Government to try and rescue you? brooklynite Dec 2022 #8

Is it no longer feasible to just request a passenger manifest from the carrier? NullTuples Dec 2022 #18

I agree. Government issued id with a star?who put he fascists in charge of transport and can we stop Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #11

I'm surprised that nobody has responded to this yet ... aggiesal Dec 2022 #10

How about burning your drivers license and moving off the grid in Idaho? brooklynite Dec 2022 #16

Drivers licenses do not require U.S. citizenship ... aggiesal Dec 2022 #28

As if credit card transactions, plane manifests & non-Real ID's can't be used for that purpose too? NullTuples Dec 2022 #19

That's not government tracking us, that's private industry that is tracking us ... aggiesal Dec 2022 #31

Do you really think they are so separate all the time? NullTuples Dec 2022 #32

Your phone pretty much reports Mr.Bill Dec 2022 #12

Or you can also turn it off. ... aggiesal Dec 2022 #14

Honestly, it's planned obsolescence. Batteries only last a few years. NullTuples Dec 2022 #20

Or is it that not everything gets turned off ... aggiesal Dec 2022 #29

On Android based phones that's something (some) people can verify. NullTuples Dec 2022 #34

BTW, you can use a US Passport in lieu of Real ID. I've been doing this for 4/5 years now. iluvtennis Dec 2022 #15

That is very helpful, thanks! NullTuples Dec 2022 #22

Regarding name and gender maker changes for red states - Wow :-( n/t iluvtennis Dec 2022 #25

This past April, the State Department started implementation of a "X" option for gender on passports BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #27

Cool - thanks. n/t iluvtennis Dec 2022 #30

What might be a better alternative BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #23

Good info - thanks. I'll request this as well as passport book when I renew in 2 years. n/t iluvtennis Dec 2022 #24

The price was reasonable BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #26

One reason I don't have a Real Id is I don't want to bother going into the DMV. Dysfunctional Dec 2022 #17

My DMV is 2 blocks away and the line almost BigmanPigman Dec 2022 #21

If you have a passport you don't need a Real ID. Even though I have a passport, I ended up getting JohnSJ Dec 2022 #33

Oh good. dont have my real ID yet. was planning to travel using passport BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2022 #35

What a mess. sarcasmo Dec 2022 #36