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77. Not only professionals, but *union* professionals. They exist to keep workers SAFE!

Reply to Bengus81 (Reply #26)

Thu Jan 19, 2023, 06:28 PM

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Alec Baldwin to be charged with involuntary manslaughter in 'Rust' movie set shooting [View all] BumRushDaShow Jan 2023 OP

So wrong. Not a criminal matter on Baldwin's part. Sneederbunk Jan 2023 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author Rebl2 Jan 2023 #12

He was the on-site producer; ultimately he was in charge of the guns NullTuples Jan 2023 #24

Yeah, it should have consequences Farmer-Rick Jan 2023 #29

Yes, we do Effete Snob Jan 2023 #40

Very very rarely henbuck Jan 2023 #46

. Effete Snob Jan 2023 #48

Wow, I had no idea, you must have done a deep dive to find that old nuget Farmer-Rick Jan 2023 #88

No, it just happens to have been one of interest to me Effete Snob Jan 2023 #89

Just because I disagree with you, Farmer-Rick Jan 2023 #94

Civil responsibility, yes. Criminal responsibility, no. Sneederbunk Jan 2023 #55

When do we start holding business profiteers criminally responsible for deaths they cause? NullTuples Jan 2023 #69

We haven't even seen the case AkFemDem Jan 2023 #35

I agree that he was given a prop gun and told it was "safe"... forgotmylogin Jan 2023 #70

His other problem is that AkFemDem Jan 2023 #72

Oh no, that is bad. (n/t) forgotmylogin Jan 2023 #82

That's for a jury to decide Effete Snob Jan 2023 #38

Oh let the rich white guy go? IbogaProject Jan 2023 #52

I do not think he pulled the trigger. I think he pulled the hammer back . . . John1956PA Jan 2023 #53

No reason to pull the hammer for a 'camera test' IbogaProject Jan 2023 #57

I am not defending Baldwin. I just want to point out that . . . John1956PA Jan 2023 #67

FBI: He pulled the trigger. NullTuples Jan 2023 #74

I remember that report, and I was surprised by it, and I still am. John1956PA Jan 2023 #80

Regardless of your opinion of the FBI report of that gun (what do they know about guns, right?) NullTuples Jan 2023 #85

About single action revolver hammers sl8 Jan 2023 #93

Thanks for the information. I have been learning a bit more about the specifics of this firearm. John1956PA Jan 2023 #95

Do you know the model? sl8 Jan 2023 #96

I do not know the model. But if the 2022 news reporting on the FBI findings is accurate . . . John1956PA Jan 2023 #97

Thanks. Found a link to (some of ?) the FBI report: sl8 Jan 2023 #98

The Armorer morty420 Jan 2023 #66

She was also not on the set at the time of the shooting ripcord Jan 2023 #83

When Republicans get away with blatantly flouting the law..... TheRealNorth Jan 2023 #2

This is a blue state directing the charges. jimfields33 Jan 2023 #10

I don't think proving intent Zeitghost Jan 2023 #23

Oh well, let's just release any inmate that identifies as democrat then AkFemDem Jan 2023 #36

shoe? ThunderRoad Jan 2023 #71

another perplexing change in gun safety is exemplified in this tragic story GenXer47 Jan 2023 #3

Movies have used real guns for a very long time. Elessar Zappa Jan 2023 #5

Live ammo should have NEVER been allowed near the set. oldsoftie Jan 2023 #50

There is really something stinky about this entire saga. twodogsbarking Jan 2023 #4

Involuntary manslaughter in New Mexico (2011, HOUSE BILL 464): Auggie Jan 2023 #6

I suspect he will cut a deal News Junkie Jan 2023 #8

Thank you for posting the statute. It helps when pondering the question of justice in this matter. RockRaven Jan 2023 #19

A fine, probation and community service ... Auggie Jan 2023 #20

This is a bad decision LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2023 #7

Actually this decision is well within the law ripcord Jan 2023 #84

Outrageous. EarthFirst Jan 2023 #9

Of course they are Rebl2 Jan 2023 #15

IMO, this is just wrong. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2023 #11

I hope this isn't related to his Trump impressions on SNL. OneCrazyDiamond Jan 2023 #13

California laws & courts, yes? We're one of the bluer states... NullTuples Jan 2023 #25

I think it is New Mexico. OneCrazyDiamond Jan 2023 #31

Thank you for the correction! NullTuples Jan 2023 #76

New Mexico Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2023 #32

Thank you for the correction! NullTuples Jan 2023 #75

I did not expect this. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2023 #14

"If it's predictable, it's preventable" AkFemDem Jan 2023 #39

That's what negligence is all about Effete Snob Jan 2023 #49

What was the underlying negligence? Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #16

Well, if someone handed me a gun William Seger Jan 2023 #17

Yep. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #21

You could tell the difference between a dummy round, a blank and a live round? dem4decades Jan 2023 #47

Yes, I believe I could William Seger Jan 2023 #62

He was the on-site Producer. Everything that happens is his responsibility. NullTuples Jan 2023 #27

+1 n/t Lulu KC Jan 2023 #34

Exactly. A woman is dead. Due to his own actions and actions of his company. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #42

This Stuckinthebush Jan 2023 #43

Res Ipsa Loquitur Effete Snob Jan 2023 #51

With thousands of TV shows and movies I wonder how many twodogsbarking Jan 2023 #18

I'd guess almost none because of hired professionals on the set Bengus81 Jan 2023 #26

Yup, Karma13612 Jan 2023 #73

Anyone holding a weapon is in charge of checking the weapon. friend of a friend Jan 2023 #92

Not only professionals, but *union* professionals. They exist to keep workers SAFE! NullTuples Jan 2023 #77

I'd bet everyone from this point on. wnylib Jan 2023 #33

Clearly a political hit job, not supported by the law RAB910 Jan 2023 #22

Dick Cheney get charged with anything?? Bengus81 Jan 2023 #28

Dick Cheney kill anyone? JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2023 #54

No crime for shooting someone and not reporting it for 12 hours because he lived? Bengus81 Jan 2023 #68

"someone else broke the law, so it's okay!" NullTuples Jan 2023 #78

If this were the start of a new era, ok. But I smell sulfur in this indictment. Kennah Jan 2023 #30

It was clearly an accident, and there were wnylib Jan 2023 #37

Probably needs to be reiterated AkFemDem Jan 2023 #41

WHAT? That's crazy! frogmarch Jan 2023 #44

such bullshit ZonkerHarris Jan 2023 #45

Love Baldwin but damn, he should NOT have pointed the the gun at the victim in the first place. Talitha Jan 2023 #56

Actors on sets, over a long period of time, have used real guns on sets pointed at people Kennah Jan 2023 #58

Understandable when the gun is pointed at a fellow actor. Talitha Jan 2023 #59

If a stunt goes wrong, I cannot see how the actor is accountable Kennah Jan 2023 #61

What about the on-site executive producer who decided not to pay for proper safety? NullTuples Jan 2023 #79

OK, now there, I'm totally with you. As an EP, I think Baldwin might well be in trouble. Kennah Jan 2023 #86

If only actors' normal practices defined what the law was FBaggins Jan 2023 #90

As the Executive Producer, I agree that he could be on the hook Kennah Jan 2023 #99

Great timing ptb Marthe48 Jan 2023 #60

It was a dumb lie. BWdem4life Jan 2023 #63

Andrea Reeb is a Republican and the special prosecutor in the case. RAB910 Jan 2023 #64

A little more about Ms Reeb, the politician Deminpenn Jan 2023 #87

It will be interesting if it goes to trial. twodogsbarking Jan 2023 #65

And yet, Rittenhouse walks free n/t Strelnikov_ Jan 2023 #81

He held the gun that shot and killed someone, the jury will decide his culpability Shanti Shanti Shanti Jan 2023 #91

I was watching Harrison Ford this morning tonekat Jan 2023 #100