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XorXor

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30. I do wonder the likelihood of Russia escalating by attacking service/support facilities outside
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 04:56 AM
Jan 2023

of Ukraine, though. I'm just an idiot on the internet, but that always seemed like a more likely path of Russian escalation than using tactical nukes. Outside of its usefulness in scaring/bullying countries from helping Ukraine, it seems like something that would have limited value compared to harm it would cause to Russia (and the world) But striking some facilities, convoys, whatever, in a neighboring country could be viewed as the non-nuclear nuclear option. I could see them deluding themselves into thinking that would scare NATO into retreat rather than being the catalyst to a wider more destructive war. Oh, then we also have the whole cyber thing. I think that falls into that category too.

I could see either of those snowballing into a war between Russia and NATO, and that escalating to nuclear weapon usage.

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2023 #1
This is the best news since the patriots ColinC Jan 2023 #4
The newest Abrams variants wont be sent FredGarvin Jan 2023 #8
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According To The WSJ... GB_RN Jan 2023 #24
Der Spiegel is reporting that Germany has agreed to send Leopard tanks Tomconroy Jan 2023 #2
30-50 Abrams is what I'm hearing so far nt rollin74 Jan 2023 #3
Germany is reportedly going to give 15 Leopard 2A6 tanks as well nt rollin74 Jan 2023 #5
Wow, they are definitely going to try to take Crimea back. harun Jan 2023 #6
I know, last week it looked like NATO didn't want Zelensky to take Ukraine. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #12
Really fuel intensive platform, something that Ukraine is in short supply of OnlinePoker Jan 2023 #7
Dont think this is a good idea. Abrams need a stout supply line. oldsoftie Jan 2023 #10
Phalynx isnt capable of reaching behind lines FredGarvin Jan 2023 #14
Yes, I said it would be great to use against those drone swarms. oldsoftie Jan 2023 #19
I wonder if it's more symbolic/political than tactical? Mister Ed Jan 2023 #16
Thats a good point; pressure to others (GER I'm looking at you) to get going. oldsoftie Jan 2023 #20
Yes. paleotn Jan 2023 #22
The Abrams M1 is multifuel. Emrys Jan 2023 #28
The entire four years I was in, we never used JP-8. Aristus Jan 2023 #34
Phalanx alone won't do... CrabbyAppleton Jan 2023 #31
But would you really need all that to defeat 100mph drones? oldsoftie Jan 2023 #32
De nada CrabbyAppleton Jan 2023 #35
Ukraine expects to get 100 Leopard 2 tanks from 12 countries, once Germany approves IronLionZion Jan 2023 #11
Let's hope they deter a Belarussian invasion FredGarvin Jan 2023 #15
like it republianmushroom Jan 2023 #13
Send them everything they need to repulse the murderous Russians Mysterian Jan 2023 #17
Indeed. Nothing should be off the table Roc2020 Jan 2023 #18
M-1 Abrams Tanks- James48 Jan 2023 #21
I don't know if the order of battle has changed since I got out in 1993, Aristus Jan 2023 #23
Update James48 Jan 2023 #26
Hear of any trustworhty estimates on training time for the crews? XorXor Jan 2023 #29
send 'em all we don't need. Send them all back to Vlad's waiting arms thanking them for service Evolve Dammit Jan 2023 #25
For the US and Germany to agree to send the Ukrainian's MarineCombatEngineer Jan 2023 #27
I do wonder the likelihood of Russia escalating by attacking service/support facilities outside XorXor Jan 2023 #30
I think that's a real possibility also, MarineCombatEngineer Jan 2023 #33
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