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ancianita

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28. Symbiotic relationships. Yes, that's how exploitation starts. Almost every modernization project
Thu Jan 26, 2023, 12:17 PM
Jan 2023

of China's, massive or not, has been bought or reverse engineered on the shoulders of Western "investment" projects now labeled colonial exploitation. The East Africa Master Plan looks impressive. Yet, of all the railways intended for 9 countries, only one is operational.

Have you read of the British railway systems built during their Empire period? Have you read that Kenya is partnering with Britain right now to build more railway? When I visited Maputo, in Mozambique, I can't tell you how Mozambican tourism is built on proudly displaying the downtown government houses they use, their wealthy class's mansion, their professional district, all built by their former Portuguese masters. When I visited Cuba, twice, and rode in those rickety Chinese buses sold to its military for tourists, I saw a bit of Chinese engineering quality. Unlike former colonial masters whose home infrastructure is much better, one wonders if China's investments produce the same quality outside their home country.


The idea that only the West has been exploitative is a distortion. Sure, China is investing in "3rd world" development; most of those client states, having 'nationalized' older empire infrastructure, will try out a new "partner," and compare the the quality of infrastructure building between that partner and the old colonial masters. Recent Chinese debt based infrastructure projects will bear that out. When "investments" are sold as win-win, and then over time, turn win-lose, that's when the debtor's remorse sets in. By then, as in South Africa (Peru and Chile), the "investor" is in the halls of government. Minority controlled government.

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These wu mao are easy to spot, easy to locate, and easy to track because they are told AZLD4Candidate Jan 2023 #1
Sounds like a Chinese version of a MAGAT. live love laugh Jan 2023 #2
Interesting. ancianita Jan 2023 #12
Wu Mao are the 50 cent army. Wu Mao is 1/2 of one RMB. AZLD4Candidate Jan 2023 #14
Ah. Thank you. ancianita Jan 2023 #16
ESPCIALLY #2 catsudon Jan 2023 #20
Lot easier for a spy of any nation to be here, versus a spy in China. Don't need to be taught! Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #15
My Chinese in-laws have told me ancianita Jan 2023 #17
China is out to win the world by building roads and ports and bridges and trains in the Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #18
I agree with you on all that, too. The Belt & Road project has put them squarely in Africa. ancianita Jan 2023 #19
i think belt & road project catsudon Jan 2023 #22
Sure. Empire building colonizers of the West built all kinds of infrastructure that's still used ancianita Jan 2023 #24
African Chinese-funded infrastructure projects are massive, targeted and of great value for Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #25
Symbiotic relationships. Yes, that's how exploitation starts. Almost every modernization project ancianita Jan 2023 #28
Huge difference....colonization by the West was forced, the nations were enslaved, literally. Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #29
Fine. You're right. So now, China comes off as the good guy because fewer people dead. ancianita Jan 2023 #30
Actually no people dead, no people enslaved, no culture destroyed. China cleaner than any Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #31
So, CCP all the way, huh? China didn't learn from the West & do it right the first time, either. ancianita Jan 2023 #32
Yes, that's what I meant...communism all the way! Go Mao! 😂💪 Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #33
Okay, then! ancianita Jan 2023 #34
Except this colonization doesn't come with warships and Guns! It comes with cash in the chamber! Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #26
I'd add that RW attacks on Democrats' progressivism as Marxist, adjacent to communist, ancianita Jan 2023 #23
There is somebody I strongly suspect is a Wu Mao in my building. C0RI0LANUS Jan 2023 #3
Wu Mao deserve the line "if China is go great, go back." AZLD4Candidate Jan 2023 #5
Well said, AZLD4Candidate C0RI0LANUS Jan 2023 #6
No, she agreed. She hates wu mao with a passion AZLD4Candidate Jan 2023 #7
Well, I've been avoiding the couple in my building, C0RI0LANUS Jan 2023 #8
If you go to bars here, unless the women are introduced to them, or men are in a large group AZLD4Candidate Jan 2023 #9
Great insight! C0RI0LANUS Jan 2023 #10
We call them "Little Pinks." Winnie the Flu's online red guard. AZLD4Candidate Jan 2023 #11
I'm the opposite catsudon Jan 2023 #21
How Deep Has Chinese Intelligence Penetrated Israel? C0RI0LANUS Jan 2023 #4
Good to know. ancianita Jan 2023 #13
Silence is an admission? No. Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #27
Our biggest "problem" with China is a self-inflicted wound. Chainfire Jan 2023 #35
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