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cab67

(3,737 posts)
31. It would probably depend on timing.
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 04:18 PM
Feb 2023

Many (most?) states have laws that won't allow reversing an adoption after a certain amount of time. Ostensibly, this is to avoid disrupting the child's life by removing it from the family that raised it since a very early age. State and/or local child welfare agencies made a mistake and wrongly severed one or both biological parents' parental rights? The biological father wasn't given adequate notice? The bio mother was convicted of a crime against her child, but was later exonerated and declared innocent? It wouldn't matter - after a legally-set length of time has elapsed, the adoption is permanent.

(I could be wrong, but I read somewhere that they might not even reverse an adoption if the baby was abducted as a newborn and passed on to adoptive parents through informal networks. I desperately hope I'm wrong about that.)

There are perfectly good reasons for a woman to anonymously put her baby up for adoption - if the pregnancy results from rape or incest, for example, or if the father is known to be violent and abusive. But there are also not-so-good reasons.

Some states - Utah comes to mind - are infamous for having inadequate notification procedures, meaning an out-of-state father might have his parental rights terminated before he's even aware the child has been born. I'm not talking about rapists or abusive men, either - I'm talking about men who want to raise their child, but are denied the opportunity.

It's not a simple thing. I can see the charitable rationale behind these drop-off stations, but there has to be some sort of oversight.

Please note - I am NOT criticizing adoption. I'm raising an adopted child myself. I just think there should be diligence way above and beyond what's expected in other legal procedures.

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I wonder how long it will be before they start DNA sampling the infants and arresting the mothers. LonePirate Feb 2023 #1
Why would that be necessary? BWdem4life Feb 2023 #21
That would never happen. StevieM Feb 2023 #33
I disagree raising2moredems Feb 2023 #35
I agree that they like to punish. StevieM Feb 2023 #36
RW anti-choice religious freaks would have no problem with baby auctions. roamer65 Feb 2023 #59
Well, if there is opposition to baby boxes, Aristus Feb 2023 #2
Well, in my head, that's the point MissMillie Feb 2023 #23
So what happens to the baby? It is able to be adopted without legal repercussion in the future? efhmc Feb 2023 #3
That could be a possibility. LiberalFighter Feb 2023 #5
It would probably depend on timing. cab67 Feb 2023 #31
Thank you so much for taking the time to answer me so completely. efhmc Feb 2023 #38
The Right-to-Lifers going to pay for it? Support it? Or eliminate SNAP? bucolic_frolic Feb 2023 #4
Gosh, you'd think that anti abortionists BOSSHOG Feb 2023 #9
I think white evangelicals are Elessar Zappa Feb 2023 #16
I agree that BOSSHOG Feb 2023 #17
Been a while since I've seen a rectory that was a mansion, but that's me. shrike3 Feb 2023 #32
Come on to Kansas and see them in all their glory BOSSHOG Feb 2023 #37
Sir, I've lived in different parts of the country and have seen an awful lot of churches. shrike3 Feb 2023 #41
No I'm talking about the Parish Priests home BOSSHOG Feb 2023 #45
All I know is what I've seen. shrike3 Feb 2023 #46
My subject line can be the same as yours. BOSSHOG Feb 2023 #50
Sir, I respect your experience. I have seen "mansions" owned by the church. shrike3 Feb 2023 #52
Is this what you're talking about? shrike3 Feb 2023 #48
Yes it is BOSSHOG Feb 2023 #51
First of all, I don't consider that a mansion. I don't have problems with the project shrike3 Feb 2023 #53
What is the c and o group? BOSSHOG Feb 2023 #55
Well, maybe it's a mansion by Kansas standards. shrike3 Feb 2023 #56
And your opinions are yours BOSSHOG Feb 2023 #57
I'm glad you work so hard to help your community. shrike3 Feb 2023 #61
Kentucky has plenty of Good Christian Abortion Agencies & funds adoptions NullTuples Feb 2023 #10
This all started here in Indiana I think. LiberalFighter Feb 2023 #6
Too many problems with this baby box thing. LiberalFighter Feb 2023 #7
Early Renaissance care for these little ones... CTyankee Feb 2023 #27
In which case the mother would probably report the kidnapping. Igel Feb 2023 #34
It's an old concept. Though it wouldn't surprise me if "Safe Haven" started in Indiana. shrike3 Feb 2023 #63
Or, they could respect the right to body autonomy and let them abort months before it comes to this? NullTuples Feb 2023 #8
THIS! momta Feb 2023 #12
Yup. MontanaMama Feb 2023 #18
It's entirely possible the mother did not want an abortion Zeitghost Feb 2023 #65
Procreation is a force of Nature Marthe48 Feb 2023 #11
Oh, Maria hasn't thought this one through, at all Warpy Feb 2023 #13
Her brain is very engaged obamanut2012 Feb 2023 #25
Nope, she's locked into an ideal world Warpy Feb 2023 #29
No, she's not. shrike3 Feb 2023 #54
Found out when I first went to college that the year before in my dorm that a woman had given birth efhmc Feb 2023 #39
Or exposing them on hillsides. shrike3 Feb 2023 #47
The alternative to abortion was infanticide Warpy Feb 2023 #58
Exactly. Are people not aware of history? SMH shrike3 Feb 2023 #62
The "history" that the incurious booboisie is exposed to Warpy Feb 2023 #64
Oh wow! We now live in a society where giving up your child is a normalized and positive thing! Tom Yossarian Joad Feb 2023 #14
Adoption has been going on for centuries. nt Phoenix61 Feb 2023 #22
Indeed. n/t shrike3 Feb 2023 #44
"...the rights of parents to get help from the state to raise their families..." Tree-Hugger Feb 2023 #15
I don't know how many countries do offer that kind of help. shrike3 Feb 2023 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author JudyM Feb 2023 #19
Is there a little flag on the box that you raise BWdem4life Feb 2023 #20
Also incest babies obamanut2012 Feb 2023 #24
Better than finding dead newborns in dumpsters, Bayard Feb 2023 #26
I agree. n/t shrike3 Feb 2023 #43
Given the alternatives that existed in the past, Safe Haven baby boxes are quite humane. shrike3 Feb 2023 #28
The right wing really does not care about women OR babies. They care about power and control. efhmc Feb 2023 #40
History holds very few examples of civilizations which truly cared about women or babies. shrike3 Feb 2023 #42
You're gonna need a bigger box. milestogo Feb 2023 #30
Well little miss "just have the baby Karma13612 Feb 2023 #60
How could we ever know the intentions of the mother? Zeitghost Feb 2023 #66
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