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42. History holds very few examples of civilizations which truly cared about women or babies.

Tue Feb 14, 2023, 11:55 AM

Feb 2023

Today, at least, there is reliable contraception. Abortion access in at least some areas. We need to hang onto the first, and work to roll back restrictions on the latter.

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First infant in Kentucky surrendered anonymously at fire station Safe Haven 'baby box' [View all] jgo Feb 2023 OP

I wonder how long it will be before they start DNA sampling the infants and arresting the mothers. LonePirate Feb 2023 #1

Why would that be necessary? BWdem4life Feb 2023 #21

That would never happen. StevieM Feb 2023 #33

I disagree raising2moredems Feb 2023 #35

I agree that they like to punish. StevieM Feb 2023 #36

RW anti-choice religious freaks would have no problem with baby auctions. roamer65 Feb 2023 #59

Well, if there is opposition to baby boxes, Aristus Feb 2023 #2

Well, in my head, that's the point MissMillie Feb 2023 #23

So what happens to the baby? It is able to be adopted without legal repercussion in the future? efhmc Feb 2023 #3

That could be a possibility. LiberalFighter Feb 2023 #5

It would probably depend on timing. cab67 Feb 2023 #31

Thank you so much for taking the time to answer me so completely. efhmc Feb 2023 #38

The Right-to-Lifers going to pay for it? Support it? Or eliminate SNAP? bucolic_frolic Feb 2023 #4

Gosh, you'd think that anti abortionists BOSSHOG Feb 2023 #9

I think white evangelicals are Elessar Zappa Feb 2023 #16

I agree that BOSSHOG Feb 2023 #17

Been a while since I've seen a rectory that was a mansion, but that's me. shrike3 Feb 2023 #32

Come on to Kansas and see them in all their glory BOSSHOG Feb 2023 #37

Sir, I've lived in different parts of the country and have seen an awful lot of churches. shrike3 Feb 2023 #41

No I'm talking about the Parish Priests home BOSSHOG Feb 2023 #45

All I know is what I've seen. shrike3 Feb 2023 #46

My subject line can be the same as yours. BOSSHOG Feb 2023 #50

Sir, I respect your experience. I have seen "mansions" owned by the church. shrike3 Feb 2023 #52

Is this what you're talking about? shrike3 Feb 2023 #48

Yes it is BOSSHOG Feb 2023 #51

First of all, I don't consider that a mansion. I don't have problems with the project shrike3 Feb 2023 #53

What is the c and o group? BOSSHOG Feb 2023 #55

Well, maybe it's a mansion by Kansas standards. shrike3 Feb 2023 #56

And your opinions are yours BOSSHOG Feb 2023 #57

I'm glad you work so hard to help your community. shrike3 Feb 2023 #61

Kentucky has plenty of Good Christian Abortion Agencies & funds adoptions NullTuples Feb 2023 #10

This all started here in Indiana I think. LiberalFighter Feb 2023 #6

Too many problems with this baby box thing. LiberalFighter Feb 2023 #7

Early Renaissance care for these little ones... CTyankee Feb 2023 #27

In which case the mother would probably report the kidnapping. Igel Feb 2023 #34

It's an old concept. Though it wouldn't surprise me if "Safe Haven" started in Indiana. shrike3 Feb 2023 #63

Or, they could respect the right to body autonomy and let them abort months before it comes to this? NullTuples Feb 2023 #8

THIS! momta Feb 2023 #12

Yup. MontanaMama Feb 2023 #18

It's entirely possible the mother did not want an abortion Zeitghost Feb 2023 #65

Procreation is a force of Nature Marthe48 Feb 2023 #11

Oh, Maria hasn't thought this one through, at all Warpy Feb 2023 #13

Her brain is very engaged obamanut2012 Feb 2023 #25

Nope, she's locked into an ideal world Warpy Feb 2023 #29

No, she's not. shrike3 Feb 2023 #54

Found out when I first went to college that the year before in my dorm that a woman had given birth efhmc Feb 2023 #39

Or exposing them on hillsides. shrike3 Feb 2023 #47

The alternative to abortion was infanticide Warpy Feb 2023 #58

Exactly. Are people not aware of history? SMH shrike3 Feb 2023 #62

The "history" that the incurious booboisie is exposed to Warpy Feb 2023 #64

Oh wow! We now live in a society where giving up your child is a normalized and positive thing! Tom Yossarian Joad Feb 2023 #14

Adoption has been going on for centuries. nt Phoenix61 Feb 2023 #22

Indeed. n/t shrike3 Feb 2023 #44

"...the rights of parents to get help from the state to raise their families..." Tree-Hugger Feb 2023 #15

I don't know how many countries do offer that kind of help. shrike3 Feb 2023 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author JudyM Feb 2023 #19

Is there a little flag on the box that you raise BWdem4life Feb 2023 #20

Also incest babies obamanut2012 Feb 2023 #24

Better than finding dead newborns in dumpsters, Bayard Feb 2023 #26

I agree. n/t shrike3 Feb 2023 #43

Given the alternatives that existed in the past, Safe Haven baby boxes are quite humane. shrike3 Feb 2023 #28

The right wing really does not care about women OR babies. They care about power and control. efhmc Feb 2023 #40

History holds very few examples of civilizations which truly cared about women or babies. shrike3 Feb 2023 #42

You're gonna need a bigger box. milestogo Feb 2023 #30

Well little miss "just have the baby Karma13612 Feb 2023 #60

How could we ever know the intentions of the mother? Zeitghost Feb 2023 #66