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55. As a homeowner, if you wanted to defend innocents, you wouldn't keep a gun in the house.

Fri Apr 7, 2023, 04:52 PM

Apr 2023

This guy bought the right wing NRA propaganda that keeping a gun in the house protects you. It does not. A gun in the house makes it more likely that you or someone else in your household will die by gun. That's a fact.

That even applies to LEOs. Keeping a gun in the house is particularly deadly for LEOs, since they suffer high rates of depression and PTSD. Coupling those mental health issues with keeping a gun readily at hand, ready to act on impulse, results in LEOs having the highest suicide rate of any other profession. https://www.addictioncenter.com/news/2019/09/police-at-highest-risk-for-suicide-than-any-profession/

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New Mexico Police Shot and Killed a Man After They Went to the Wrong House While Responding to a Dom [View all] ruet Apr 2023 OP

K & R ..Stupid Cops, Very Stupid Cops,...In New York City or Los Angeles this would ..NOT HAPPEN!! Stuart G Apr 2023 #1

It happens in NY and LA sarisataka Apr 2023 #3

Sorry, I was wrong. That happens from time to time. Stuart G Apr 2023 #8

"Yep, looks like 5308 to me" dalton99a Apr 2023 #2

I agree with you...Hard to tell an eight from a five in that picture. :sarcasm: Stuart G Apr 2023 #5

Especially With 3 Floodlights Right Above The Number ProfessorGAC Apr 2023 #48

2nd amendment home-personal defense fails ... sanatanadharma Apr 2023 #4

Seriously? ruet Apr 2023 #7

It sounds like he didn't fire at all, just brandished. eggplant Apr 2023 #9

Seriously! they should not have brought the gun to the door sanatanadharma Apr 2023 #14

Seriously? Again? ruet Apr 2023 #20

I applaud your thought to be discretely armed sanatanadharma Apr 2023 #28

You know what I do if someone unexpected is pounding on my door ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #56

You would answer the door before knowing who was outside? friend of a friend Apr 2023 #71

They did not know who was at the door. LiberalArkie Apr 2023 #51

Wait a second...they went to the wrong house. sheshe2 Apr 2023 #59

Why would you greet the police with a gun? Tumbulu Apr 2023 #11

Did the police identify themselves? csziggy Apr 2023 #16

I have lived in small towns and or rural areas my adult life and everyone sort of Tumbulu Apr 2023 #60

I would sarisataka Apr 2023 #19

well, it seems as though you handled it differently than these people did Tumbulu Apr 2023 #61

I would agree sarisataka Apr 2023 #72

Husband and wife didn't know it was the police. NutmegYankee Apr 2023 #69

Seems as though their ignorant approach proved to be lethal in this instance Tumbulu Apr 2023 #74

I don't understand how this went down. friend of a friend Apr 2023 #6

Agree! Tumbulu Apr 2023 #12

Bet this now dead gun owner had no training Kaleva Apr 2023 #10

yeah, right - put it on a homeowner defending himself azureblue Apr 2023 #22

Of course I blame it on the gun humper Kaleva Apr 2023 #32

absolutely right! Tumbulu Apr 2023 #75

Victim blaming, when one wakes up to banging on the door... duhneece Apr 2023 #76

You have every right to defend idiot gun humpers Kaleva Apr 2023 #77

If only he'd had a gun. truthisfreedom Apr 2023 #13

Did they identify as being police when they knocked on the door ? JI7 Apr 2023 #15

Too many guns. colorado_ufo Apr 2023 #17

too many trigger happy cops azureblue Apr 2023 #23

Amen colorado_ufo Apr 2023 #25

And too many gun owners who don't know what they are doing Kaleva Apr 2023 #33

Are police that stupid they don't know they were at the wrong address? LiberalFighter Apr 2023 #18

Excellent point. In our area, even house numbers are on the north and east sides of streets. yonder Apr 2023 #27

I know! That's a bad mistake, unless it's some weird street LeftInTX Apr 2023 #73

All the homeowner had to do was speak to the cops and tell them they were at the wrong Vinca Apr 2023 #21

How did you determine that he pointed a gun at them? nt sl8 Apr 2023 #24

Did you read the original post? That's what it says. Vinca Apr 2023 #53

Mind quoting it for me? sl8 Apr 2023 #54

It said... Whatthe_Firetruck Apr 2023 #62

I agree. sl8 Apr 2023 #66

The number of people here defending the cop is pretty astonishing NickB79 Apr 2023 #26

The number of people here defending a gun humper is astonishing Kaleva Apr 2023 #34

Except you just made up a bunch of stuff NickB79 Apr 2023 #38

Quote where I said he pointed a gun at the cops Kaleva Apr 2023 #44

Apparently we have different definitions of "confronted" NickB79 Apr 2023 #49

There are many here who say they are terrified of others with guns Kaleva Apr 2023 #64

I remember the last time DU defended cops sarisataka Apr 2023 #35

the white washing of the department will now start. republianmushroom Apr 2023 #29

Better Technology and better Training for all involved. MarcA Apr 2023 #30

True Kaleva Apr 2023 #37

I'm sorry however the burden of initial identification is solely of the responding officers... EarthFirst Apr 2023 #31

Looks like the homeowner's gun didn't protect him... SunSeeker Apr 2023 #36

He'd be alive today if he didn't have one Kaleva Apr 2023 #39

Yup. SunSeeker Apr 2023 #40

So You Are For Banning Guns Outright? -NT- ruet Apr 2023 #42

No, just posting a PSA. SunSeeker Apr 2023 #45

What On Earth Would Lead You To Come to This Conclusion? -NT- ruet Apr 2023 #41

What did your training teach you to do in that situation? Kaleva Apr 2023 #46

As an LEO or Homeowner? ruet Apr 2023 #47

As a homeowner, if you wanted to defend innocents, you wouldn't keep a gun in the house. SunSeeker Apr 2023 #55

So you have no home defense training. Kaleva Apr 2023 #63

"Double-check? What's that?" -these fucking cops sakabatou Apr 2023 #43

And then there are gun owners who don't have a clue Kaleva Apr 2023 #67

When I was young, I was renting a house in a low income neighborhood womanofthehills Apr 2023 #50

If they have bodycams I would be interested in seeing them before judging to see cstanleytech Apr 2023 #52

Post removed Post removed Apr 2023 #57

Welcome to DU!. n/t GP6971 Apr 2023 #58

Grrrr allnews Apr 2023 #65

Brandishing a gun in New Mexico and answering the door Kaleva Apr 2023 #68

Guns make us safe. Back the blue IronLionZion Apr 2023 #70