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79. It's not genocide, Hugabear

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 06:10 AM

Nov 2012

"Genocide" is the endeavor to cause the total annihilation of a particular group. It's a policy of extermination, literal, actual extermination, with the intent that the victims will be expunged from the human race.

Even at the worst, this is thankfully not something Israel has attempted. Israel has - and is - performing ethnic cleansing within Jerusalem and the West Bank, though it's relatively bloodless (compared to the ethnic cleansing of Albanians in Serbia, or the attempts in Sri Lanka and other places). Ethnic cleansing is a different thing from genocide, however.

In Gaza... I'm not sure exactly what you'd call it, I'm not sure if there's actual precedent to draw a name for it from. But it's not the Israeli's goal to exterminate the people of Gaza.

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Gaza rocket fire kills Israelis [View all] Turborama Nov 2012 OP

Israelis trying to draw the US into a war with Iran with these attacks on Palestine. loudsue Nov 2012 #1

Yeh. And the Hamas attacks daily from Gaza are just for fun. HERVEPA Nov 2012 #2

Uhm you know the Palestinians started the missile attacks right? riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #3

You beat me to it glacierbay Nov 2012 #5

Let's see ... 1.65 million people ... earthside Nov 2012 #6

+10000 Dokkie Nov 2012 #41

Seriously. bunnies Nov 2012 #49

Not to mention "put on a diet". backscatter712 Nov 2012 #50

If any other country besides Israel was doing this... Hugabear Nov 2012 #62

None of what you have written here is true oberliner Nov 2012 #75

Maybe... dubient Nov 2012 #13

Note the shelling killed 13 other people, including 4 children. Ash_F Nov 2012 #21

ummm you do know that there was a ceasefire that Israel broke via a targeted assassination? azurnoir Nov 2012 #47

You couldn't be more wrong cpwm17 Nov 2012 #64

We all know what Americans would do if put under the same circumstances as Israel, King_David Nov 2012 #92

+1000000 nt. glacierbay Nov 2012 #100

So all these people are racist? glacierbay Nov 2012 #99

Yes! And even the UK says Israel tortures Palestinian children. PerceptionManagement Nov 2012 #83

Ain't gonna happen glacierbay Nov 2012 #4

and Israel's targeted assassination after a cease had been brokered is???????? azurnoir Nov 2012 #48

"oh it also targeted a pregnant woman and a child" EX500rider Nov 2012 #52

oh so when it is Israel it's only oops azurnoir Nov 2012 #53

Define "near" Ash_F Nov 2012 #61

so this is an attack on Palestine? backwoodsbob Nov 2012 #7

well of course it is dlwickham Nov 2012 #24

Not true. I love Israel. It's their version of George Bush/Rumsfeld/Cheney that is in power there loudsue Nov 2012 #58

and Israel bombing Gaza? killing women and children is............? n/t azurnoir Nov 2012 #57

so Isreal bombs Palestine when not attacked and targets children? backwoodsbob Nov 2012 #68

Do you dispute that Israel is bombing Gaza? Scootaloo Nov 2012 #77

so you would agree backwoodsbob Nov 2012 #87

See, that wasn't so hard, now was it? Scootaloo Nov 2012 #95

Exactly. However, it won't work. With the realignment plethoro Nov 2012 #8

So you would just throw away one of our strongest allies in the ME glacierbay Nov 2012 #10

There's no American life or dollar worth it. nt Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #14

So you would just allow the genocide of millions of Israelis? glacierbay Nov 2012 #18

Wow, hyperventilate much? "The genocide of millions of Israelis." Comrade Grumpy Nov 2012 #19

I admit it's a worse case scenario glacierbay Nov 2012 #20

Look, your angst about Palestine being the aggressor is not working Hutzpa Nov 2012 #27

Everyone has biases glacierbay Nov 2012 #28

Correction Hutzpa Nov 2012 #42

And just what the hell do you think Hamas is doing? glacierbay Nov 2012 #44

I'm all for finding an equitable solution to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict as well, BUT R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #67

RE: I'm all for finding an equitable solution to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict as well, BUT MisterScruffles Nov 2012 #69

What I always find so fascinating R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #70

The much lesser of two evils MisterScruffles Nov 2012 #71

Evil is still evil no matter hoe much the apologists dance for it. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #85

Right back at you. MisterScruffles Nov 2012 #88

And yet I am not an apologist for the Palestinians. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #90

Was there a Genocide of millions of whites when apartheid ended in South Africa? Ash_F Nov 2012 #23

We'll probably never know as I strongly believe glacierbay Nov 2012 #25

The US nor the rest of international community would allow the genocide of Israelis Ash_F Nov 2012 #26

Why don't you ask the Jewish People how well that worked out glacierbay Nov 2012 #29

All I am saying... Ash_F Nov 2012 #34

Fair enough glacierbay Nov 2012 #36

I don't think any Duers would wish harm on your family. /nt Ash_F Nov 2012 #38

I don't think so either. nt. glacierbay Nov 2012 #40

Passionate you are ... mallard Nov 2012 #74

Sorry glacierbay Nov 2012 #91

Looks good on paper ... mallard Nov 2012 #104

The only genocide I see is Israel's policy towards Gaza Hugabear Nov 2012 #30

And they're raining rockets back glacierbay Nov 2012 #32

It's not genocide, Hugabear Scootaloo Nov 2012 #79

what on Earth are you blatherinhg on about? azurnoir Nov 2012 #55

In my opinion, this particular ally has done plethoro Nov 2012 #15

This is an affair strictly between Israel and the Palestinians brentspeak Nov 2012 #35

We should be doing whatever it takes to get the two sides to sit down glacierbay Nov 2012 #39

Then I suggest you join the IDF brentspeak Nov 2012 #54

The US never has . nt King_David Nov 2012 #93

Is that the best you got? glacierbay Nov 2012 #102

Just like America drew the Nazis into the war by letting the Japanese attack Pear Harbor? Ian David Nov 2012 #16

I'm with you man. Real fishy to me right after the election??? God would have to come down and tell demlion Nov 2012 #43

Some headlines from Israel/Palestine that Americans don't see thanks to bias towards Israel Larkspur Nov 2012 #9

Good live video from Gaza (on generator power now) The Straight Story Nov 2012 #12

I was once sympathetic to Israel, but not for the last 50 years or so. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2012 #11

Same here. Total reversal on my part......nft plethoro Nov 2012 #17

Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #31

Thank you, glacierbay Nov 2012 #33

+1. COLGATE4 Nov 2012 #46

They consider themselves a nation; their oppressors don't. Funny that. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2012 #37

If they were citizens of greater Israel... Ash_F Nov 2012 #56

That is NOT true, Palestinians have been there for thousands of years CrawlingChaos Nov 2012 #60

Palestinians did not exist until the 1960s? Hugabear Nov 2012 #63

Palestine declared independence from Greater Israel mrf901 Nov 2012 #72

Well, it took awhile searching through the responses before I found you Grumpy condoleeza Nov 2012 #73

thank you for your thought - on responses below we have three different people Douglas Carpenter Nov 2012 #80

Because finding three islamophobes on the internet is the easiest thing in the world Scootaloo Nov 2012 #81

Israel does not function as an ally in the sense that word is normally understood. The USA should byeya Nov 2012 #22

Gaza Twitter feed here - Hell Hath No Fury Nov 2012 #45

Yeah, I suggest the Israeli's................... johnq45 Nov 2012 #51

Talk about a scorched earth reelection campaign... Junkdrawer Nov 2012 #59

U.S. backs Israel on Gaza�including use of ground forces totodeinhere Nov 2012 #65

No doubt some of the more backward knuckle dragger's in Israel are trying to do a ramp up here nolabels Nov 2012 #86

I can't understand how people can defend Israel on this... 4bucksagallon Nov 2012 #66

It's heartwarming to see so much sympathy for the Israelis killed oberliner Nov 2012 #76

I seem to have missed your outpouring of sympathy for the 19 Palestinians killed prior Scootaloo Nov 2012 #78

There have been a lot more than 19 Palestinians killed oberliner Nov 2012 #82

So tragic that you can't bring yourself to mention them at all, apparently Scootaloo Nov 2012 #84

I feel compelled to step in here. cali Nov 2012 #89

+1 King_David Nov 2012 #94

Your experiences and mine differ greatly then, Cali Scootaloo Nov 2012 #96

Then do a search. And my experience goes far further back than 2011 cali Nov 2012 #97

This message was self-deleted by its author Scootaloo Nov 2012 #98

Again, our experiences differ Scootaloo Nov 2012 #105

Thank you for this oberliner Nov 2012 #101

Nothing Profound To Say DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #103