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BouzoukiKing

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58. "Peddling" is kind of a loaded word, 6502.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:41 AM
Nov 2012

I'm not peddling anything. And it's not that it didn't occur to me my post could be misinterpreted before posting it, either.

After some thought, I think what I'm pointing out is that fear exists - and takes strange turns. Now me; I'm white, 61, male, and became politically active (not only aware) just before JFK was elected. It's too long and winding a story to tell here, but St. Mark's Church back home in NYC (I'm in Minneapolis these days) was a hell of a training ground for a young boy. But fear...

So I remember it all - Martin Luther King, both Kennedy brothers, Malcolm X... and yes, George Wallace. It was a terrifying time. Nobody who went through it with much or any awareness was thinking about the 'sex and drugs and rock 'n' roll' (TM) that the media would have us recall in fondness. It was an insanely political time: 'insane' being the operative word. Actually, it was clearly the closest our country has come to any kind of outright revolution since the Civil War. It was a very close thing, I believe.

Then cut forward ( < snip > ) to Athan Gibbs in 2004. Curious, that.

So anyway, during the DKOS primary blogwars of 2008 I came down firmly in the Obama camp. Then I worked; and then I voted. And you know... my first thought as I was leaving the polling place was this: "Shit. What have we done to that man?" And the fear never really goes away. In fact, the better he gets - and he does keep getting better, doesn't he? - the more pervasive the fear is.

None of which stops me from voting, or working for what I see as right. I put the fear aside because I don't really matter. I'm just a guy. And whatever I may contribute, it isn't really much.

But that's not true of everyone I know. We all hang out with our own generation in meatspace, mostly - and what I see in mine is a group of people, all of whom react differently to the fear in us. Some react much better than I do, as I see it - some have totally caved, feigning disinterest. But, knowing them, I can see the remembered fear in their eyes, and see what it does to them.

Tell me then, 6502 - is your generation so different from mine? Is your fear different than mine because you're black and I'm not? And note please, that I'm not asking if your fear is more or less experientially valid - only if you see it as different.

So yes - I'll stand by my post, and my statement that "...as a theory, it does have some logic behind it." Not that I like that logic, or agree with it, or think that's how the world should be. And not - as I thought I'd made clear - that it was my theory at all.

* shrug *

Have a good evening Sir or Madame, as the case may be. Not too many bearable nights left up here in the northwest - I think I'll take a walk and enjoy it.

In any case, I thank you for the moment of introspection. There's always value in that.

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NFP = no facts party Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #1
Actually, the odious Mr. Webster's claim... BouzoukiKing Nov 2012 #17
I'm Black. Your theory is ridiculous. 6502 Nov 2012 #57
"Peddling" is kind of a loaded word, 6502. BouzoukiKing Nov 2012 #58
As I expected... you did not answer the question at all... 6502 Nov 2012 #59
Ah, yes... I know this one from DKOS. BouzoukiKing Nov 2012 #65
Please, you misunderstand... 6502 Nov 2012 #68
Hello from Winthrop, Maine! MarianJack Nov 2012 #2
the keyword is "outgoing" as in gone and grasping at straws. olddad56 Nov 2012 #3
Keyword is 'Republican'. Bluenorthwest Nov 2012 #36
"...dozens of black people came to vote...Nobody in town knew them" FailureToCommunicate Nov 2012 #4
+1 freshwest Nov 2012 #24
It is understandable bucolic_frolic Nov 2012 #28
LOL! Scruffy Rumbler Nov 2012 #46
Welcome to DU Scruffy! FailureToCommunicate Nov 2012 #47
Thanks, FailureToCommunicate! Scruffy Rumbler Nov 2012 #55
Yeah, and I bet they didn't know the precint people either. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2012 #53
Webster is a dumbass and an embarrassment to my hometown. bluedigger Nov 2012 #5
The GOP just keeps getting more and more bizarre. ... almost need warning signs RKP5637 Nov 2012 #6
The black guy did it bjobotts Nov 2012 #7
In the library, with the candlestick... freshwest Nov 2012 #25
Dozens could throw an election huh bjobotts Nov 2012 #8
GOP really do want to take Blacks, Latinos, and Asians votes away Iliyah Nov 2012 #9
Oh, My... tom_kelly Nov 2012 #10
Hey Mr. Puke Asshole... SoapBox Nov 2012 #11
Stuff like this really makes you sick... defacto7 Nov 2012 #12
1.3% of maine`s population are black and over 95% are white madrchsod Nov 2012 #13
LOL, and Obama won the state by like 15+ points fujiyama Nov 2012 #15
Well how special. Maraya1969 Nov 2012 #14
just code words people pipewrench Nov 2012 #16
HA! What "code words"? radiclib Nov 2012 #30
Every town in Maine is a small rural town. AlbertCat Nov 2012 #18
LOL bluedigger Nov 2012 #19
Augusta was the big city when I was growing up AlbertCat Nov 2012 #23
Somalis and Bantus in Maine, OH MY!!!! MADem Nov 2012 #20
They should give him JoeyT Nov 2012 #21
Don't forget the fat people. He has something against them too. mainer Nov 2012 #48
Holy Shit African Americans have the right to vote??? sheshe2 Nov 2012 #22
Here you go, just type in :sarcasm: in the message box: freshwest Nov 2012 #62
Thanks! Okay let's see how this works ....... sheshe2 Nov 2012 #64
Sure! And :loveya: and :dem: and :donkey: freshwest Nov 2012 #66
You are a bottomless Pit of Information! I just used two of them on posts. sheshe2 Nov 2012 #67
Charlie Webster is certified world-class dumbass jpak Nov 2012 #26
2 stupid 2 take Botany Nov 2012 #27
Well, yeah! that's exactly what we do... 6502 Nov 2012 #61
I knew it! Botany Nov 2012 #63
Very astute... 6502 Nov 2012 #70
So this is much more complex than it seems Botany Nov 2012 #71
Nah... just us regular folks... 6502 Nov 2012 #72
They've sure got interesting techniques for winning hearts and minds. tanyev Nov 2012 #29
Does he propose searching for them with torches and pitchforks? Thor_MN Nov 2012 #31
LMAO! bitchkitty Nov 2012 #32
"Who are these dark skinned people and why are they voting?" Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #33
Black people in Maine. The Horror! valerief Nov 2012 #34
Ok, so we'll cede these "dozens" of supposedly undocumented voters adieu Nov 2012 #35
Charlie spent too much time working on lead pipes, I think. bluedigger Nov 2012 #37
he needs to be worked over with a lead pipe frylock Nov 2012 #41
Republicans only realize black people exist on election days. /nt Ash_F Nov 2012 #38
Fuck these people wryter2000 Nov 2012 #39
Holy shizz! Dozens of black people in Maine! Scary! scary! scary! What could they possibly want? struggle4progress Nov 2012 #40
why do you dems always have to bring race into this? frylock Nov 2012 #42
CHARLIE (WHO SO MUCH WANTED TO BE A US SEN.) IS RIGHT THERE WITH... drynberg Nov 2012 #43
LOL - the GOP is in official meltdown mode!!! Skittles Nov 2012 #44
Two comments by Martin Bashier tonight on MSNBC socialindependocrat Nov 2012 #45
what a liar. blackspade Nov 2012 #49
OMG HA HA Skittles Nov 2012 #50
I live in Mapleton, Mapletonian Nov 2012 #51
I will add this: Mapletonian Nov 2012 #54
Welcome to DU! Marrah_G Nov 2012 #60
Welcome to DU!!! 6502 Nov 2012 #69
Not an isolated case nxylas Nov 2012 #52
Remind me again how many electoral votes Maine has? are_you_serious_1234 Nov 2012 #56
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