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75. If I understand where you're going - One clarifying point

Fri Jun 30, 2023, 10:23 AM

Jun 2023

There's nothing in the ruling that says that schools must not gather demographic data. In fact, they're probably required to.

They just can't consider it as part of their admissions determinations.

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Supreme Court strikes down affirmative action in college admissions, says race cannot be a factor [View all] BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 OP

Decision (PDF): sl8 Jun 2023 #1

Well, FUCK! lastlib Jun 2023 #2

It wasn't just the reich wingers. Any so-called progressive who refused to vote for Hillary in JohnSJ Jun 2023 #5

Yep. Case and point... PunkinPi Jun 2023 #20

Third party voters also also saddled us with Roberts and Alito in 2000. lapucelle Jun 2023 #65

Yes indeed. nt PunkinPi Jun 2023 #69

Buttery males Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2023 #56

Another decision that is a direct result of the 2016 election. From the Roe decision to this, no JohnSJ Jun 2023 #3

Only upper class Casady1 Jun 2023 #4

I don't believe this decision prevents colleges from looking at socio-economic background ..... groundloop Jun 2023 #6

Sure hope so. Freethinker65 Jun 2023 #11

That might be a better approach anyway exboyfil Jun 2023 #28

How many still require the "essay"? Perhaps diversity info could Backseat Driver Jun 2023 #40

I thought so as well - until I read more of the ruling FBaggins Jun 2023 #68

Non-mandatory organized or "by appointment" campus tours are out as well? Backseat Driver Jun 2023 #74

If I understand where you're going - One clarifying point FBaggins Jun 2023 #75

Socio-economic background considerations is how California colleges have been doing it for years. SunSeeker Jul 2023 #80

And can pay for expensive (mostly white kid) sports travel teams, camps, etc. deurbano Jun 2023 #12

The lawsuit was brought by Asian-American students Jose Garcia Jun 2023 #27

My point is that there are admissions advantages much more "unfair" than affirmative action. deurbano Jun 2023 #34

Yup. Great way to get a scholarship at elite colleges is to play lacrosse. SunSeeker Jul 2023 #81

I honestly believe the only legacy of this court Torchlight Jun 2023 #7

Not surprised. Especially with the Harvard part. oldsoftie Jun 2023 #8

Asians really were hurt by the admissions board. jimfields33 Jun 2023 #22

Record numbers equals "mostly not accepted"? dpibel Jun 2023 #32

What percent of Harvard applicants were Asian-Americans? former9thward Jun 2023 #46

Not as to this particular poster dpibel Jun 2023 #48

Asians outperform everyone, they earned that 29% Mosby Jun 2023 #62

You must be talking to someone else dpibel Jun 2023 #63

OK. Mosby Jun 2023 #64

What a fish I am! dpibel Jun 2023 #66

What a disgraceful legacy for the Roberts court. madaboutharry Jun 2023 #9

So stop all legacy admissions as they are unequal and unfair. Freethinker65 Jun 2023 #10

It's a ruling that rewards monied applicants bucolic_frolic Jun 2023 #13

Not unexpected! atreides1 Jun 2023 #14

It is also a book end to Bakke. BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #15

Gangplank Clarence Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2023 #57

So now, every white boy who is not accepted Bettie Jun 2023 #16

Not true. Only if tests scores and academic record is higher. jimfields33 Jun 2023 #24

Oh, I think you are underestimating the Bettie Jun 2023 #26

Record numbers equals "have a chance"? dpibel Jun 2023 #33

He didnt say "record numbers" in either post; why are you quoting him as such? oldsoftie Jun 2023 #43

I'm quoting the NBC article linked in #32 dpibel Jun 2023 #47

Roberts is completely clueless about the purpose of affirmative action William Seger Jun 2023 #17

Those who fear diversity... Jrose Jun 2023 #18

THIS!!☝️ this SCOTUS conservative justices have been bought & paid for onetexan Jun 2023 #52

So does Traildogbob Jun 2023 #19

Title 6 of the CRA melm00se Jun 2023 #21

Title 6 was the basis of the lawsuit FBaggins Jun 2023 #70

So, you can't discriminate against a white dude in college admissions SpankMe Jun 2023 #23

Rural applicants Casady1 Jun 2023 #25

Thanks to DjT and the Magapublicans... Jrose Jun 2023 #29

People think I steal their jobs now, just wait IronLionZion Jun 2023 #30

Totally disagree with this ruling. This is a bad business. ananda Jun 2023 #31

Id it weren't for affirmative action Jilly_in_VA Jun 2023 #35

Military academies are exempted from the decision. Tennessee Hillbilly Jun 2023 #36

Eliminate 'alumi' or 'legacy' in the admission process too. mackdaddy Jun 2023 #37

That could have the effect of Alumni not contributing as much to the College post graduation. Calista241 Jun 2023 #55

I understand Asians have been hurt the most, especially in recent years, ... jcmaine72 Jun 2023 #38

Bakke finally realized. no_hypocrisy Jun 2023 #39

What about looking at the income level of the people applying and their families then? cstanleytech Jun 2023 #41

And with the HUGE endowments they have, they can easily pay tuitions. nt oldsoftie Jun 2023 #44

No, I mean that they look at the income level as in getting a student body cstanleytech Jun 2023 #71

But even if they do that someone has to pay their ridiculous tuition. oldsoftie Jun 2023 #72

The schools should pay the tuition to promote such diversity. Plus it has cstanleytech Jun 2023 #76

They COULD do a lot more. Harvard has 50 BILLION+ in the bank oldsoftie Jun 2023 #77

Students with family income of 85k or less pay no tuition. Mosby Jun 2023 #79

as trump and his rightwingers intended llashram Jun 2023 #42

Elite High School's Admissions Plan May Face Supreme Court Test mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2023 #45

Get ready for the war on Asians again. LiberalArkie Jun 2023 #49

Guess who is going to be a minority in a few years ? republianmushroom Jun 2023 #50

Is SCOTUS quite finished yet?They've gutted the Voting Rights Act, overturned Roe entirely, now this Hekate Jun 2023 #51

Not yet Polybius Jun 2023 #53

Ah yes -- eternal debt-slavery Hekate Jun 2023 #54

Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson dissent Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2023 #58

a number of colleges and universities will be sued over this mike_c Jun 2023 #59

They have little choice but to stop Polybius Jun 2023 #67

OF course they did, with Uncle Clarence leading the charge .... LenaBaby61 Jun 2023 #60

My argument would be, as we become more diverse, we need an affirmative action plan more than ever Rhiannon12866 Jun 2023 #61

Affirmative Action has successfully increased diversity and opportunity in the educational system. Jrose Jun 2023 #73

Oh, damn! Still too much racism around - individual, and institutional! electric_blue68 Jun 2023 #78

Control of the SCOTUS was on the ballot in 2016 as well as the fate of Roe v. Wade and VRA LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 #82