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60. China & Saudi Arabias murder rates are about 1/10th what ours is.

Wed Jul 12, 2023, 06:42 PM

Jul 2023

"largely in the heat of passion"? Hardly. And the "mentally ill" excuse holds no water either. To you & me, sure, they're "mentally ill" because they're KILLERS, but most are NOT clinically mentally ill. I dont know where the ACLU gets that from. Just look up any number of cases over the past year in your area. I dont care what other countries do or dont do. Most other countries also dont have the guns we have or the freedoms. With freedom comes responsibility. And they cant really do a reliable study when we've NEVER carried out the DP as it should be done; quickly. Dylan Roof should've been executed the day after his guilty verdict. But regardless of deterrence they dont deserve to live & as seen here, possibly end up free again.
Yes, I'm passionate about it. Because I've been around too many murders in families I know well & seen the killers show zero remorse.And they dont seem to care about prison either.

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Good obamanut2012 Jul 2023 #1

I can only imagine how the right will go bonkers over this. ificandream Jul 2023 #2

Why "the right"? BigmanPigman Jul 2023 #32

For the sake of accuracy, H2O Man Jul 2023 #35

I said that only because the right has become the Party of No. ificandream Jul 2023 #44

The Right because its always "we strongly object to anything Dems do!" LiberalLovinLug Jul 2023 #45

I'm on DU and I most definitely do not "agree" she should stay in jail. Stop trying o speak for the Martin68 Jul 2023 #50

Yes MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2023 #58

Thank you obamanut2012 Jul 2023 #70

I am in the "don't have a strong opinion either way" camp. XorXor Jul 2023 #66

Not me, she should have been released years ago obamanut2012 Jul 2023 #69

I suppose it's time. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2023 #3

I know way more about the Manson case than I should...so LeftinOH Jul 2023 #4

She killed Mrs. LaBianca BigmanPigman Jul 2023 #8

She said she stabbed Mrs. LaBianca 16 times. mzmolly Jul 2023 #26

This teenager was high on drugs and had been brainwashed by a psychopath. Charles Manson was not Martin68 Jul 2023 #51

I believe MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2023 #59

"she didn't kill anyone." LudwigPastorius Jul 2023 #10

Krenwrinkel doesn't ask to be paroled any more obamanut2012 Jul 2023 #15

Yes, she DID kill; she stabbed the woman 16 times. oldsoftie Jul 2023 #28

the death penalty is a barbarous relic Celerity Jul 2023 #38

Barbarity is stabbing someone 16 times. Or any other number of ways people murder. oldsoftie Jul 2023 #41

profoundly disagree, as does almost every other advanced nation on the planet Celerity Jul 2023 #43

China & Saudi Arabias murder rates are about 1/10th what ours is. oldsoftie Jul 2023 #60

Your self-admitted passion for having the state murder people is telling, as is your continued Celerity Jul 2023 #61

Easy to take away "chance", as I've mentioned in other posts oldsoftie Jul 2023 #62

Get the needle, huh? obamanut2012 Jul 2023 #71

To each their own; IMO she should've been dead 50 yrs ago. oldsoftie Jul 2023 #73

You are absolutely wrong! Brenda Jul 2023 #23

Exactly. mzmolly Jul 2023 #27

Wrong obamanut2012 Jul 2023 #72

So admitting culpability is no sign of rehabilitation. No excuses, no diminishing of guilt. She ... marble falls Jul 2023 #74

When I was young, a co-worker lived with Manson for a week womanofthehills Jul 2023 #25

Milhouse should be happy about that ArkansasDemocrat1 Jul 2023 #5

There can be no happy ending. It all still saddens me. I was going home twodogsbarking Jul 2023 #6

Only if she had poured cancer-causing chemicals into their water supply.... TheRealNorth Jul 2023 #7

I often wonder what our society would be like if walkingman Jul 2023 #9

"It began an era of police violence against peaceful protesters" Jarqui Jul 2023 #13

Good info - I finished HS in May '68 walkingman Jul 2023 #18

Comparing those times to today isn't easy. Jarqui Jul 2023 #19

"there is no common connection like it was during the Vietnam era" BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #24

Very perceptive to you....I am an oddball walkingman Jul 2023 #31

I only had to try to figure it out due to my nieces & nephews and grandnieces & grandnephews BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #33

Tell your grands they need to get OFF TikTok. Its dangerous. oldsoftie Jul 2023 #42

Oh I know... BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #49

Get a job, hippie Showbizkid Jul 2023 #63

Funny, heard that before. I worked for 33 productive years and as of this year walkingman Jul 2023 #64

Did you stab a woman 16 times? Showbizkid Jul 2023 #65

The police were beating up hippies long before Manson's crimes. Manson just gave them another Martin68 Jul 2023 #52

What a dumb move to have the Hell's Angels for security?? You are right.... walkingman Jul 2023 #54

Absolutely. Some very naive people thought the Angels were just leather-jacket wearing hippies. Martin68 Jul 2023 #55

I think: hookaleft Jul 2023 #11

I don't think she'll last long. Archae Jul 2023 #12

I'm okay with this Jilly_in_VA Jul 2023 #14

She lived free for quite a while between her trials obamanut2012 Jul 2023 #16

same Skittles Jul 2023 #36

Who has the get for a much publicized tv interview? Sneederbunk Jul 2023 #17

Don't agree, but it is done Joinfortmill Jul 2023 #20

+1 CountAllVotes Jul 2023 #21

+1 n/t area51 Jul 2023 #29

She should be forced to serve life for the life she took. BigmanPigman Jul 2023 #30

Well, I would agree with you, except... robbob Jul 2023 #46

I wouldn't let her out until the people that they killed were resurrected. Chainfire Jul 2023 #22

See my reply robbob Jul 2023 #47

Taking bets, within a week she'll have half a dozen book deal offers, in the millions Shanti Shanti Shanti Jul 2023 #34

I rather doubt that. A shitload has been written about the Manson family, the murders and the Martin68 Jul 2023 #53

Maybe, she wasn't in on the Tate murder scene, but the others ... Maybe a screenplay, a movie Shanti Shanti Shanti Jul 2023 #56

Pretty thin material for a multi-million dollar contract... Martin68 Jul 2023 #57

There's not a lot of juice left in the Manson orange Showbizkid Jul 2023 #67

Moving on from Manson... Pototan Jul 2023 #37

Just in time for Medicare and Social Security! (Well, a few years late). Wonder Why Jul 2023 #39

How can she qualify for it? She hasn't been in the work force. Vinca Jul 2023 #48

I hope she disappears and lives a quiet life Mysterian Jul 2023 #40

I prefer that people who participate in heinous murders stay in prison. SYFROYH Jul 2023 #68

whatever happened to Ruth Ann Moorehouse? prodigitalson Jul 2023 #75