Israel Is A Terrorist State: Turkey PM

[AldoLeopold]

95. So what's this then?

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I call that accusing me of antisemitism. You didn't even ask me to clarify what I meant by the question - no, you just thought you'd flex your internet balls and stamp down on the newby? A gentleman would apologize and swallow his pride. Instead, to get me to shut up, you threaten me with the TOS.

"Your question presumes that Israel made such a choice. Israel was attacked by the armies of 5 Arab Nations. Israel won that war. Should Israel have chosen to lose that war? Were some people forced off land, sure, but was that a deliberate policy of the Israeli government: absolutely not. The Arabs were not prepared to accept any comprise that would have created a Jewish state and I don't think you can objectively look at the issue without considering the eviction/evacuation of nearly 1 million Jews from across the Muslim world."

Lets argue to your point for a moment. First of all, its a straw-man argument. The state was created and sanctioned by Churchill, Truman and the UN. If the UN really worked as well as they had intended it to, people in the arab world wouldn't have gotten so fired up about it. In truth, and I think we all know this, the 1948 war was a convenient excuse for the dictatorships of the region to try to grab some land. In truth, I'll wager, even if the Palestinians had kept their land, the Egyptians or the Syrians might have made a bid for it. IN TRUTH, Truman had in mind an American client state in the mid-east to counteract the Soviet overtures to Egypt, Jordan and Syria in an effort to stem a possible future Soviet grab of the oil fields. I never said anything about the Israeli government. Did I? You assumed it. I don't blame Israel for squat. I blame the gd UN and that mutton-headed Truman for not having the foresight to see this coming. I blame the British for being so blatantly obtuse when it came to colonial affairs that they managed to also botch (along with the French) the de-colonialization of Africa and India/Pakistan, which has caused tribal and now intercontinental warfare in many countries (not just Israel and Palestine) for the past 60 years.

Here's the way I think about it: Suppose aliens landed where you live and say "Look, we've had an intergalactic council and we think the native americans (we'll say the Sioux for this example) really got the short end of the stick. We know its been awhile since they lived on this land, but we've decided that you're all going to live in New Jersey. All 314 million of you. The remaining Sioux and their ancestors are all going to live on the rest of the land. By the way, we're going to give all the Sioux our most advanced weapons so don't screw with them. And don't screw with the Intergalactic Council, cause we're aliens and stuff and we have photon torpedoes."

Like I said in another post. Its too late to change what's happened. Both peoples have their homes there so we're going to have to find another way. Darned if I know what it is, but I bloody well know what caused the problem in the first place.