Israel Is A Terrorist State: Turkey PM

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116. I'm saying it's hate speech to advocate that Israel should have never existed...

...because it's just too much trouble and that Jews and Israelis worldwide should regret the creation of the State of Israel for causing such trouble. I fail to see the substantiative difference between such an argument and advocacy for the destruction of the State of Israel, which is expressly defined in the Terms of Service as bigoted hate speech.

I have not read such a book. But I would gamble that it is a revisionist history based on the use of "Revisited" and am somewhat familiar with the basic revisionist arguments. I have read other histories. I again feel compelled to repeat, I did not state that there were no expulsions, but rather that this was not official Israeli policy, and that although it may have been de facto policy of some elements in some places, that it was not the most significant factor in "the Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem," and that this cannot be understood without major appreciation of the military events as they unfolded.

I think too many people are too fast and loose with using terms such as "ethnic cleansing" and "genocide" in this regard. If these terms were liberally applied, every national power in every war in human history would be guilty of such crimes, they have very specific meanings in regard to intent. Consider the UN Convention on Genocide Article II:

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Nowhere is it stated that taking territory as part of a military conflict is genocide, and I still would await any presentation of documentary proof that Israel sought to commit genocide as defined by the UN Convention on Genocide as there was no intent to destroy, rather the intent was to defend and secure the State of Israel.