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19. No, a nuclear war is not "obviously" the wost catastrophe in our future. In fact, it would not have

Sun Sep 10, 2023, 09:51 PM

Sep 2023

the unrelenting power of climate change to destabilize every society on earth. Climate change is INEVITABLE if we don't do something. Nuclear war is not.

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Biden Says Climate Change Poses Greater Threat Than Nuclear War [View all] BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 OP

Well, he's WRONG. And what a sound bite gift that'll be. oldsoftie Sep 2023 #1

He's not wrong. we can do it Sep 2023 #2

He is not wrong, and here's why: When you do any risk assessment Ocelot II Sep 2023 #5

It could be a draw depending on how you rank the impact nt Shermann Sep 2023 #13

No, a nuclear war is not "obviously" the wost catastrophe in our future. In fact, it would not have Martin68 Sep 2023 #19

My point exactly. Which is the greatest risk, Ocelot II Sep 2023 #20

The rich and powerful will survive (While being the biggest drivers of climate change too) ck4829 Sep 2023 #6

I've said this from Day 1 Shermann Sep 2023 #14

No, the rich and "powerful" will not survive. Rising sea levels, droughts, floods, hurricanes, Martin68 Sep 2023 #18

Unpopular opinion: Climate change will be an economic boon long term hueymahl Sep 2023 #27

They cannot 'eat' gold, or fish if there are none left in the warming oceans. Justice matters. Sep 2023 #21

but what good is a billion when society is collapsing all around? DonCoquixote Sep 2023 #26

He's not wrong. This worst ever summer is likely the best marybourg Sep 2023 #8

No, You're wrong.... Think. Again. Sep 2023 #9

You cannot adapt to the collapse of our biosphere. No water No food No people airplaneman Sep 2023 #12

The effects of climate change will not be uniform around the world Kaleva Sep 2023 #16

You're missing the flow stock problem. CO2 resides in the atmosphere for 1000 years give or take. mahina Sep 2023 #55

No, he's not wrong. It's basic risk management. Happy Hoosier Sep 2023 #58

He's right. RandySF Sep 2023 #3

If Nuclear war is worst then why is Japan still in existence? kimbutgar Sep 2023 #4

Because todays nukes are about 100x more powerful than those dropped on Japan. oldsoftie Sep 2023 #15

"If Nuclear war is worst then why is Japan still in existence?" EX500rider Sep 2023 #39

Excuse my ignorance kimbutgar Sep 2023 #44

K&R ck4829 Sep 2023 #7

Thank you posting this... Think. Again. Sep 2023 #10

As has the Pentagon. For years now. ancianita Sep 2023 #11

This is absolutely true, and I've been disappointed that some on DU are still not taking the threat Martin68 Sep 2023 #17

"in the next decade or two" -- I wish I were as optimistic. PSPS Sep 2023 #22

Yes. LudwigPastorius Sep 2023 #53

Depends on how you look at it as in the short-term nuclear war is far more dangerous as climate cstanleytech Sep 2023 #23

"Depends on how you look at it as in the short-term nuclear war is far more dangerous as climate" BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #25

Those are all minor things in the short-term compared an all out nuclear war. cstanleytech Sep 2023 #32

That's not "minor" because it is happening *DAILY* BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #36

How many people are effected by that at max? Probably 20 to 60 million. cstanleytech Sep 2023 #37

I haven't even touched the surface of the extreme weather events this year BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #41

I don't think it's downplaying, BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #45

I expect the intent BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #46

We must not allow a mineshaft gap! n/t Harker Sep 2023 #24

Since climate change has a 100% probability of occurring and... NNadir Sep 2023 #28

You said it best. 100% vs Unknown. twodogsbarking Sep 2023 #29

Biden said "nuclear war" BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #30

There is a huge difference between could and is. NNadir Sep 2023 #31

Only in the short-term as more than likely at least some of our species would survive a nuclear war. cstanleytech Sep 2023 #33

I agree above with NN about how useless the comparison is BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #35

How much of a difference would the long term radiation be from what's around Chernobyl? cstanleytech Sep 2023 #38

Depends how many are ground bursts Vs air bursts EX500rider Sep 2023 #40

This is pure speculation, however, since nuclear wars have not been observed since 1945... NNadir Sep 2023 #42

Damn you got me running down the rabbit hole BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #47

The reference, by the way, is a 1986 reference from Von Hippel... NNadir Sep 2023 #43

One yr ago: "Biden calls the prospect of Armageddon' the highest since the Cuban missile crisis."l womanofthehills Sep 2023 #49

Increased CO2 PPM poses a greater threat to civilization/human life than nuclear harun Sep 2023 #34

No one really knows what poses a greater risk womanofthehills Sep 2023 #51

Guess it depends on how many harun Sep 2023 #57

Americans will have to sacrifice! LiberaBlueDem Sep 2023 #48

Sacrifice to do what? BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #50

Jimmy Carter's energy program included "coal to oil." NNadir Sep 2023 #52

There is a ton of money to make... Happy Hoosier Sep 2023 #59

Carter's energy program was LiberaBlueDem Sep 2023 #54

Climate change is out of the tube and something humanity has no choice but to adapt. PufPuf23 Sep 2023 #56