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Earth 'well outside safe operating space for humanity', scientists find [View all] OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 OP

Hard to think of discussing such matters with my grands, elleng Sep 2023 #1

I am sure it would be hard, and I am sorry. hamsterjill Sep 2023 #2

Thanks elleng Sep 2023 #3

15 years ago I was at a family gathering OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #4

One (at least) of my 9 year old grandsons has engineering interests, elleng Sep 2023 #5

My oldest, dearest friend is a "counselor" OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #8

Thank you. elleng Sep 2023 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author AllaN01Bear Sep 2023 #6

The start of the Western Industrial Revolution was the start of the bullet about to hit the fan! Alexander Of Assyria Sep 2023 #7

There's some evidence that the bullet was fired when agriculture began... OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #10

Beat me to it BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #23

Again, The Guardian is reporting good and news that we don't see in the US M$M erronis Sep 2023 #11

It's not a Newspaper per se, but... OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #17

I've received New Scientist for 10+ years. It's become too expensive for me erronis Sep 2023 #18

Yes, New Scientist has become quite expensive OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #21

It's interesting. Heah in VT we have two very vibrant and active news outlets. erronis Sep 2023 #30

I married a woman with grown children, Mr.Bill Sep 2023 #12

I'm beginning to think civilization on earth is near the end. LiberalFighter Sep 2023 #13

You're almost right. 20 years, not 200. Brenda Sep 2023 #37

we are in civilizational collapse right now Voltaire2 Sep 2023 #55

You think there will be no more humans in 20 years? Polybius Sep 2023 #64

I didn't say that. Brenda Sep 2023 #65

We're adaptable Warpy Sep 2023 #14

I am not as confident OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #20

Thanks for the good read housecat Sep 2023 #44

The acidification of the ocean will remove 1/3 of th worlds food Javaman Sep 2023 #25

Wait, but are you speaking of this? BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #28

right. There will still be homo sapiens. Voltaire2 Sep 2023 #56

We're adaptable. roamer65 Sep 2023 #70

So with little hope of the planetary support systems expanding, jaxexpat Sep 2023 #15

capitalism must die GenXer47 Sep 2023 #16

Materialism gotta go BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #26

This is the reality that is being denied. Voltaire2 Sep 2023 #54

In high school biology in 1962.. Permanut Sep 2023 #19

Peanuts, March 11, 1957 OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #22

Even the wisdom of cartoonists fell on deaf ears housecat Sep 2023 #29

Missed that one, thanks! Permanut Sep 2023 #46

You're welcome! OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #47

That's a gold mine. Permanut Sep 2023 #50

Yet overpopulation in less-developed countries is currently less of a problem than the greed of housecat Sep 2023 #27

Not really BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #31

If I buy a product manufactured in China because it's cheap who is responsible for the emissions? OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #34

Good point. Maybe we should have two separate conversations-- one around overpopulation and one housecat Sep 2023 #38

If anything, they suffer more OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #40

Sure when parents drive around and don't go anywhere -- whenn anyone does that housecat Sep 2023 #43

Okay maybe industrialized is the wrong term. But China and India, two overpopulated AND industrial housecat Sep 2023 #35

And US per capita emissions are greater than the citizens of either nation OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #36

Agreed. The cause is shared. Maybe a solution will be multinational. housecat Sep 2023 #39

But that's the point BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #48

yes and no. Few drive a car in many overpopulated areas housecat Sep 2023 #60

Hmmm... Interesting viewpoint... OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #62

not to mention the trash Snooper9 Sep 2023 #58

As disgusting this is for water and life, the damage to climate is small housecat Sep 2023 #61

Much like The Thames in the Industrial Revolution, the West can help with this also! Alexander Of Assyria Sep 2023 #68

If US mines export their coal to China who is responsible for the resulting emissions? OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #45

Still China BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #49

Mining companies destroy land whether they burn coal or not housecat Sep 2023 #63

We.Fucking.Suck. EarthFirst Sep 2023 #24

What will Republicans do when their dividend checks stop? bucolic_frolic Sep 2023 #32

The republican reaction? Mr.Bill Sep 2023 #33

10-15yrs ago... Snackshack Sep 2023 #41

Yep... Think. Again. Sep 2023 #42

It sounds that the end of the Holocene era is long past DFW Sep 2023 #51

In the end the danger comes down to pollution. If we get a handle on that it can buy us time to cstanleytech Sep 2023 #52

Nothing new here. Aussie105 Sep 2023 #53

It is true that "the whole of modern civilization arose after the last ice age during the Holocene, Martin68 Sep 2023 #57

Don't be too confident OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #59

I think if you read it carefully, it addresses the effects on "society" and "civilization" in terms Martin68 Sep 2023 #66

My hunch (like yours) is that a "remnant" may survive OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #67

But you are positing an advanced technological solution. I am suggesting a return to small hunter- Martin68 Sep 2023 #72

Want to truly help fight climate change? roamer65 Sep 2023 #69

Global Weirding - The easiest ways to fix climate change is population control and going vegan - ... OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #71