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Alamuti Lotus

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10. how does it imply the opposite?

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:16 PM

Nov 2012

the ceasefire is an admission that present tactics will fail to achieve the desired objections of the campaign; how is that not a strategic defeat? Something of a pyrrhic victory (if even that) for the other side, to be sure, but the Palestinian resistance factions need only to remain standing as the smoke clears to claim something resembling success (slightly dubious concept in context).

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Jubilant Palestinians mob Gaza streets [View all] oberliner Nov 2012 OP

I can see why they would be celebrating. David__77 Nov 2012 #1

self-edit. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #3

I am quite sure that is not what David__77 meant.. Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #5

A ceasefire does not imply "a defeat of the Israeli campaign" oberliner Nov 2012 #8

how does it imply the opposite? Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #10

Israel has achieved its objectives and sees no benefit in continuing oberliner Nov 2012 #16

You don't have to be a Hamas supporter to have opposed the Israeli campaign Ken Burch Nov 2012 #25

No kidding oberliner Nov 2012 #46

So they're spinning. Bibi's spinning too. Does it matter? Ken Burch Nov 2012 #48

My only point is that a ceasefire is not a "defeat for the Israeli campaign" oberliner Nov 2012 #50

But somehow that position is ALWAYS anti-Israel. aquart Nov 2012 #54

It doesn't have to be. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #57

ceasefire--> Israel ran out of targets . nt mrf901 Nov 2012 #19

self-edit. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #28

I deny it. David__77 Nov 2012 #36

Thank you for the response then. I'll self-delete the post you are responding to out of respect. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #37

have you ever read his posts? Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #38

I've now edited the posts in which I misunderstood the poster's intent. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #39

don't let your guard down; that kind of assumption can still be safely made about certain others Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #41

I will...send me the link in a pm. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #43

I think you should elaborate on that FiveGoodMen Nov 2012 #4

I dunno, Iron Dome doesn't come cheap. joshcryer Nov 2012 #13

Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team) Dubster Nov 2012 #2

I doubt if it will last Andy Stanton Nov 2012 #6

Well, the people in the street think Hamas is just great. aquart Nov 2012 #7

This might have been a Hamas strategy all along oberliner Nov 2012 #9

That is why all states go to war before elections. Bush is a prime example. joshcryer Nov 2012 #12

Really? Do you have information that the executed collaborators just didn't think Hamas was great? Comrade Grumpy Nov 2012 #34

Do you have proof that the 6 executed, glacierbay Nov 2012 #45

Should be an easy reelection now. joshcryer Nov 2012 #11

If they actually ever get around to holding elections oberliner Nov 2012 #14

I thought he was talking about the Israeli election...had it wrong. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #26

No he wasn't oberliner Nov 2012 #29

I doubt that. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #31

You are wrong oberliner Nov 2012 #33

As the Wikipedia link pointed out, it hasn't even been agreed that THAT election will happen. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #35

No, I was talking about Hamas' elections. joshcryer Nov 2012 #47

I stand corrected. Sorry. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #49

They can't keep putting it off. joshcryer Nov 2012 #51

They tried directly electing the pm in Israel at one point...Didn't seem to help. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #52

Kadima had 1 more seat than Likud, but Yisrael sided with Netanyahu. joshcryer Nov 2012 #53

I've always thought that Hamas AND Likud benefited from each other. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #56

Completely agree. joshcryer Nov 2012 #58

The only hope is for Labor and Meretz to get as many seats as possible Ken Burch Nov 2012 #59

Link down, alt link here: Ash_F Nov 2012 #15

Actually the whole site appears to be down oberliner Nov 2012 #17

Never heard of Ma'an News Ash_F Nov 2012 #18

Are you serious? oberliner Nov 2012 #20

There you go with your 'news sources' again..interesting indeed since our earlier exchange. See link Purveyor Nov 2012 #27

Just surprised that the poster never heard of Ma'an News oberliner Nov 2012 #30

But in 'breaking news'...even I wouldn't go there. {{{chuckle}}} eom Purveyor Nov 2012 #40

Typically I read Western sources Ash_F Nov 2012 #55

Israel has achieved it's objective TomClash Nov 2012 #21

Very well-crafted post oberliner Nov 2012 #23

Oh the 'crafty one' you... LOL Carry on. eom Purveyor Nov 2012 #44

I celebrate for boths sides... ReRe Nov 2012 #22

I share your hope for a permanent truce oberliner Nov 2012 #24

Celebrating a cease fire by shooting guns into the air. rucky Nov 2012 #32

No shit. First thing that struck me as well Ishoutandscream2 Nov 2012 #42

a rather low threshold for jubilance mrf901 Nov 2012 #60

Gulag? oberliner Nov 2012 #61

Gaza is a hell hole. Do you deny that? KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #62

You think Gaza is a "hell hole" and a "modern day concentration camp" ? oberliner Nov 2012 #63

jury results Mosby Nov 2012 #64

Wow oberliner Nov 2012 #66

Posts like this one leftynyc Nov 2012 #65

Is it a majority or minority opinion here? oberliner Nov 2012 #67

Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #68