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38. Garbage. Of course he's an officer of the US, even by an originalist interpretation.

Wed Oct 11, 2023, 07:38 PM

Oct 2023

This is a 2017 piece from the Stanford law review.

Page 12, section H

II. “Corpus Linguistics” and the Original Public Meaning Analysis
This article’s “original public meaning” analysis of the phrase “Officers of the
United States” suggests that an “Officer[]” is anyone entrusted with ongoing
responsibility for a federal statutory duty regardless of the duty’s significance

Being President is the highest Federal office, which made him a federal officer.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii

The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his office during the term of four years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same term, be elected, as follows:

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Trump tells court he had no duty to 'support' the Constitution as president [View all] brooklynite Oct 2023 OP

To "uphold and defend " the Constitution is the same ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2023 #1

I know. This is ridiculous to think otherwise. ananda Oct 2023 #16

Yes & typo.. Ridiculous. TY Cha Oct 2023 #61

Sadly those words meant nothing to him...obviously still don't PortTack Oct 2023 #77

Could Trump and his lawyers get any more ridiculous? Lonestarblue Oct 2023 #2

Trump is a proven liar, he is F*****g delusional, and will say anything to save his own neck. usaf-vet Oct 2023 #72

Well, causing an insurrection isn't protecting or defending the constitution SouthernDem4ever Oct 2023 #3

Good Lord! That's insane. George Orwell was a prophet in his book 1984. ashredux Oct 2023 #4

I have no Constitutional duty to pay the IRS, but you know what? /nt bucolic_frolic Oct 2023 #5

Tell me how you can "defend" the Constitution without "supporting" it . . . . . no_hypocrisy Oct 2023 #6

Trump sees the word support and thinks it means financially? Freethinker65 Oct 2023 #7

Just when I thought trump couldn't be any more disgusting ... YDogg Oct 2023 #8

In it just for himself as usual Blue Owl Oct 2023 #9

tRump basically admitted to attacking the Constitution. You have to support it to preserve it Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2023 #10

Prof. Tribe and Judge Luttig disgree with this theory/claim LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2023 #11

Jack Smith just rubbed his hands with glee over hearing this. ificandream Oct 2023 #12

That's a lot of words for "Trump is a fucking liar." Ray Bruns Oct 2023 #81

Ludricous. How I despise tfg. n/t iluvtennis Oct 2023 #13

Rethugs never let a little thing like our Constitution get in the way of a good grift or power grab. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2023 #14

hogwash. AllaN01Bear Oct 2023 #15

his lawyers should be disbarred for idiocy moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #17

The Presidential oath, which the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment surely knew, LiberalFighter Oct 2023 #18

I like presidents who DO support the Constitution nt Shermann Oct 2023 #19

+1 ffr Oct 2023 #64

"uphold and defend" could mean cut it up into toilet paper IronLionZion Oct 2023 #20

Laurence Tribe wrote in detail with another scholar about this being BS. That indeed the President hlthe2b Oct 2023 #21

Laurence Tribe on why this argument is sheer bullshit: hlthe2b Oct 2023 #22

What is the commander and chief? Puppyjive Oct 2023 #40

Well, sort of. malthaussen Oct 2023 #83

Which is, I suppose, tantamount to admitting that he did *not* support the Constitution... malthaussen Oct 2023 #84

It also explains why he dry-humped and wiped his ass with the Constitution... Probatim Oct 2023 #23

Well, THERE'S an image....... oldsoftie Oct 2023 #57

Sorry about that - he's classless and thinks rules don't apply to him. Probatim Oct 2023 #69

Ahhh Hell! BunnyMcGee Oct 2023 #24

Like those sovereign citizens idiots VGNonly Oct 2023 #25

" hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State," CIVIL includes TeamProg Oct 2023 #26

Yep... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #28

A question: Think. Again. Oct 2023 #27

As a Marine veteran, BidenRocks Oct 2023 #29

Oh God I had forgotten that. Ugh oldsoftie Oct 2023 #56

Trump actually received a Purple Heart keithbvadu2 Oct 2023 #62

Navy vet here.. Permanut Oct 2023 #76

Maybe he should re-read the Presidential Oath ... aggiesal Oct 2023 #30

Sick, sick minds. Hollow souls. Psychopaths. Hekate Oct 2023 #31

Such a total fraud, sociopath and mob boss. Evolve Dammit Oct 2023 #32

Are they preparing for SCOTUS appeal? ArizonaLib Oct 2023 #33

..., or hold any office ... aggiesal Oct 2023 #34

Good question Nasruddin Oct 2023 #37

This actually seems like a very 'novel' legal argument by some Federalist Society crackpots ck4829 Oct 2023 #35

When the facts are against you, argue the law... Wounded Bear Oct 2023 #36

Garbage. Of course he's an officer of the US, even by an originalist interpretation. pnwmom Oct 2023 #38

Then what was the inaugural OATH OF OFFICE all about. Why bother if the oath words are ancianita Oct 2023 #39

In my 40 years as a lawyer, I have heard some silly-ass legal arguments but none to top this. TomSlick Oct 2023 #41

By this logic Old Crank Oct 2023 #42

"...or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States" Sogo Oct 2023 #43

I smell the beginning of an insanity plea. Turbineguy Oct 2023 #44

Damn dumb, dude. republianmushroom Oct 2023 #45

Shades Of "It Depends What The Meaning Of 'Is' Is" nt smb Oct 2023 #46

And while we, and especially Repugs, make fun of that phrase, Wednesdays Oct 2023 #82

After we jail TFG, we'll just have to clarify the fourteenth for the RW with Congressional action. marble falls Oct 2023 #47

Cream rises to the top COL Mustard Oct 2023 #48

When truth isn't truth, context becomes meaningless. czarjak Oct 2023 #49

I've had enough of his insanity. usonian Oct 2023 #50

n/t ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 2023 #71

I will chip in. I would happily eat ramen for the rest of the year if he would just GO niyad Oct 2023 #74

He swore an oath to the Constitution, obviously he had no comprehension of what the job entails. Rhiannon12866 Oct 2023 #51

This is a direct admission that Trump is unable or unwilling to honor his oath of office. Martin68 Oct 2023 #52

This will go over well in the election ads. No wonder he doesn't want to debate. C Moon Oct 2023 #53

All I've got is "are you fuckin' KIDDING me?????" calimary Oct 2023 #54

HE IS SO FULL OF BULLSHIT YoshidaYui Oct 2023 #55

TRAITOR had a blood oath Cha Oct 2023 #58

What the everliving fuck? NewHendoLib Oct 2023 #59

There should be ads run on right wing media having him stating this and then have his magaloons kimbutgar Oct 2023 #60

So than, as the leader of the domestic terrorist organization MAGA, this means all members ffr Oct 2023 #63

I've heard better arguments from sovereign citizens... jmowreader Oct 2023 #65

... ancianita Oct 2023 #79

Just like whiney little child Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2023 #66

5th definition of DEFEND per... 3catwoman3 Oct 2023 #67

I'm sure the court will beg to differ. Warpy Oct 2023 #68

Not much of a surprise kevinore Oct 2023 #70

Our current Supreme Court kacekwl Oct 2023 #73

Absurd argument YES. But it's all they got. Can you imagine Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2023 #75

To quote the great Bo Diddley: colorado_ufo Oct 2023 #78

What a grotesque and despicable imbecile. trusty elf Oct 2023 #80

We all know he scoffed at the oath of office. hamsterjill Oct 2023 #85

That argument right there...that he doesn't believe he has any obligation to "support" the BComplex Oct 2023 #86

"Cheer up. Things could be worse". I cheered up. Then I read what he said. It's worse. Wonder Why Oct 2023 #87

And this man might be president in 2024. qwlauren35 Oct 2023 #88

It does occur to me... jmowreader Oct 2023 #89