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KS Toronado

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8. I see repugs encouraging Biden/Democrats

Sat Oct 14, 2023, 07:51 PM

Oct 2023

to stop rattling our sabers and put them to good use for our great and almighty Military Industrial Complex
while yelling Israel, Israel, Israel, especially if Gym Jordan becomes Speaker.

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Exclusive: US to send 2nd aircraft carrier to eastern Mediterranean [View all] BumRushDaShow Oct 2023 OP

Will U.S. fighter pilots be flying our planes KS Toronado Oct 2023 #1

Saber-rattling BumRushDaShow Oct 2023 #3

Exactly Earl_from_PA Oct 2023 #7

I see repugs encouraging Biden/Democrats KS Toronado Oct 2023 #8

Again, for clarity, absent an official declaration of war Earl_from_PA Oct 2023 #9

No, but he'll be trying KS Toronado Oct 2023 #15

Well also note that the administration is working to get BumRushDaShow Oct 2023 #10

Excellent point Earl_from_PA Oct 2023 #11

Thou art correct as usual, oh wise one 🙂 onetexan Oct 2023 #30

Jim Jordan sarisataka Oct 2023 #14

True, but Gym sure loves to play political mind games doesn't he? KS Toronado Oct 2023 #16

U. S. pilots fly planes in all parts of marybourg Oct 2023 #4

Without an official U.S. declaration of war Earl_from_PA Oct 2023 #5

CoC makes that decision with or without Congressional Declaration...see Iraq, Kuwait, Vietnam...etc. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #19

And without a functioning House COL Mustard Oct 2023 #37

Deterrence against escalation. Nothing more. paleotn Oct 2023 #12

That is exactly what it is. Iran came out threatening if Israel goes after Zhamas they will get JohnSJ Oct 2023 #25

The President has rather broad powers none of which require such a declaration. For example it cstanleytech Oct 2023 #32

Did not require declaration of war to invade Iraq! Too many powers...what if trump had them...again? Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #38

The majority of Congress backed up the decision to invade Iraq and if the majority opposed it they cstanleytech Oct 2023 #43

No declaration of war, President given war powers Patriot Act. ... took years more to rescind... Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #46

I guess we have to be "policemen of the world." (sigh). My WW I and II relatives would agree. nt Evolve Dammit Oct 2023 #2

See post 5 Earl_from_PA Oct 2023 #6

Giving Iran and Syria a moment of pause. paleotn Oct 2023 #13

Weren't doing anything useful anyway...might as well feed the warhawks some guano. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #20

I suspect some of it has to do with subconscious guilt due to the US not stepping in and cstanleytech Oct 2023 #44

The President has said no one was to try and take advantage of Israel' ripcord Oct 2023 #17

This is mostly deterrence, but if Hezbollah or Iran tries to directly engage, that will change Kennah Oct 2023 #18

I worry about the safety of our carrier groups. Lasher Oct 2023 #21

That is why the the carriers have Aegis guided missile cruisers and destroyers as a screen ripcord Oct 2023 #22

This is reassuring. Lasher Oct 2023 #23

You are right to worry, there is no telliong what that madman Ali Khamenei might do ripcord Oct 2023 #24

Hamas saved up their missiles and launched them pretty much all at once. Lasher Oct 2023 #26

It's not just a carrier alone it's a fleet and there are probably more than enough ships in the two cstanleytech Oct 2023 #34

Regarding the CSGs BumRushDaShow Oct 2023 #35

This! ☝️ onetexan Oct 2023 #31

Those Hamas missiles have no where near the accurately to hit a moving ship way offshore EX500rider Oct 2023 #27

There's lots of people who would like to sink one of our carriers. Lasher Oct 2023 #28

However neither Hamas, Hezbollah or Iran have the means to sink a USN CV offshore in the Med EX500rider Oct 2023 #29

A carrier group isn't a stationary target. cstanleytech Oct 2023 #33

A moving carrier and other ships are a lot harder to hit than a large stationary city XorXor Oct 2023 #42

Putin's upset by just one carrier in the area. He's going to piss in his pants about two. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 2023 #36

Where are Americas 30 nuclear missile subs...these two groups are for show...mostly used for that. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #39

Chess is a complex game. Torchlight Oct 2023 #40

The "nuclear missile subs" ie SSBNs are either on patrol in deep oceans as usual or in port EX500rider Oct 2023 #41

I'd much rather see the aid sent in the form of humanitarian aid and a hospital ship. Magoo48 Oct 2023 #45

This is more likely to keep the war spreading to Hezbollah or Iran EX500rider Oct 2023 #47