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joshcryer

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51. They can't keep putting it off.

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:02 AM

Nov 2012

That would risk new factions trying to take their place, imo.

There won't be a landslide for Likud (Israel's right wing) but I do think it's possible that they get back the majority they lost in 2009. Note that their (very close) losses though in 2009 came after the Second Intifada, which was a protracted period where violence reigned. I hope the Israeli people do not fall for it again. They had the right idea in 2009.

Damn parliaments, though, and prime ministers. Presidents should be directly elected, imo.

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Jubilant Palestinians mob Gaza streets [View all] oberliner Nov 2012 OP

I can see why they would be celebrating. David__77 Nov 2012 #1

self-edit. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #3

I am quite sure that is not what David__77 meant.. Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #5

A ceasefire does not imply "a defeat of the Israeli campaign" oberliner Nov 2012 #8

how does it imply the opposite? Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #10

Israel has achieved its objectives and sees no benefit in continuing oberliner Nov 2012 #16

You don't have to be a Hamas supporter to have opposed the Israeli campaign Ken Burch Nov 2012 #25

No kidding oberliner Nov 2012 #46

So they're spinning. Bibi's spinning too. Does it matter? Ken Burch Nov 2012 #48

My only point is that a ceasefire is not a "defeat for the Israeli campaign" oberliner Nov 2012 #50

But somehow that position is ALWAYS anti-Israel. aquart Nov 2012 #54

It doesn't have to be. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #57

ceasefire--> Israel ran out of targets . nt mrf901 Nov 2012 #19

self-edit. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #28

I deny it. David__77 Nov 2012 #36

Thank you for the response then. I'll self-delete the post you are responding to out of respect. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #37

have you ever read his posts? Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #38

I've now edited the posts in which I misunderstood the poster's intent. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #39

don't let your guard down; that kind of assumption can still be safely made about certain others Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #41

I will...send me the link in a pm. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #43

I think you should elaborate on that FiveGoodMen Nov 2012 #4

I dunno, Iron Dome doesn't come cheap. joshcryer Nov 2012 #13

Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team) Dubster Nov 2012 #2

I doubt if it will last Andy Stanton Nov 2012 #6

Well, the people in the street think Hamas is just great. aquart Nov 2012 #7

This might have been a Hamas strategy all along oberliner Nov 2012 #9

That is why all states go to war before elections. Bush is a prime example. joshcryer Nov 2012 #12

Really? Do you have information that the executed collaborators just didn't think Hamas was great? Comrade Grumpy Nov 2012 #34

Do you have proof that the 6 executed, glacierbay Nov 2012 #45

Should be an easy reelection now. joshcryer Nov 2012 #11

If they actually ever get around to holding elections oberliner Nov 2012 #14

I thought he was talking about the Israeli election...had it wrong. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #26

No he wasn't oberliner Nov 2012 #29

I doubt that. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #31

You are wrong oberliner Nov 2012 #33

As the Wikipedia link pointed out, it hasn't even been agreed that THAT election will happen. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #35

No, I was talking about Hamas' elections. joshcryer Nov 2012 #47

I stand corrected. Sorry. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #49

They can't keep putting it off. joshcryer Nov 2012 #51

They tried directly electing the pm in Israel at one point...Didn't seem to help. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #52

Kadima had 1 more seat than Likud, but Yisrael sided with Netanyahu. joshcryer Nov 2012 #53

I've always thought that Hamas AND Likud benefited from each other. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #56

Completely agree. joshcryer Nov 2012 #58

The only hope is for Labor and Meretz to get as many seats as possible Ken Burch Nov 2012 #59

Link down, alt link here: Ash_F Nov 2012 #15

Actually the whole site appears to be down oberliner Nov 2012 #17

Never heard of Ma'an News Ash_F Nov 2012 #18

Are you serious? oberliner Nov 2012 #20

There you go with your 'news sources' again..interesting indeed since our earlier exchange. See link Purveyor Nov 2012 #27

Just surprised that the poster never heard of Ma'an News oberliner Nov 2012 #30

But in 'breaking news'...even I wouldn't go there. {{{chuckle}}} eom Purveyor Nov 2012 #40

Typically I read Western sources Ash_F Nov 2012 #55

Israel has achieved it's objective TomClash Nov 2012 #21

Very well-crafted post oberliner Nov 2012 #23

Oh the 'crafty one' you... LOL Carry on. eom Purveyor Nov 2012 #44

I celebrate for boths sides... ReRe Nov 2012 #22

I share your hope for a permanent truce oberliner Nov 2012 #24

Celebrating a cease fire by shooting guns into the air. rucky Nov 2012 #32

No shit. First thing that struck me as well Ishoutandscream2 Nov 2012 #42

a rather low threshold for jubilance mrf901 Nov 2012 #60

Gulag? oberliner Nov 2012 #61

Gaza is a hell hole. Do you deny that? KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #62

You think Gaza is a "hell hole" and a "modern day concentration camp" ? oberliner Nov 2012 #63

jury results Mosby Nov 2012 #64

Wow oberliner Nov 2012 #66

Posts like this one leftynyc Nov 2012 #65

Is it a majority or minority opinion here? oberliner Nov 2012 #67

Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #68