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Overseas

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18. That was the apparent reason and sadly, the voting wasn't verifiable by hand counting.
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 04:36 PM
Nov 2012
Maybe Nebraska Republican Chuck Hagel honestly won two US Senate elections. Maybe it's true that the citizens of Georgia simply decided that incumbent Democratic Senator Max Cleland, a wildly popular war veteran who lost three limbs in Vietnam, was, as his successful Republican challenger suggested in his campaign ads, too unpatriotic to remain in the Senate. Maybe George W. Bush, Alabama's new Republican governor Bob Riley, and a small but congressionally decisive handful of other long-shot Republican candidates really did win those states where conventional wisdom and straw polls showed them losing in the last few election cycles.

Perhaps, after a half-century of fine-tuning exit polling to such a science that it's now sometimes used to verify how clean elections are in Third World countries, it really did suddenly become inaccurate in the United States in the past six years and just won't work here anymore. Perhaps it's just a coincidence that the sudden rise of inaccurate exit polls happened around the same time corporate-programmed, computer-controlled, modem-capable voting machines began recording and tabulating ballots.

But if any of this is true, there's not much of a paper trail from the voters' hand to prove it.


http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0131-01.htm

and

Velvet Revolution (“VR”), a non-profit dedicated to clean and honest elections, today offers a $100,000 reward for hard information leading to the arrest and conviction of any person or persons who helped to rig the 2002 Senate race in Georgia in favor of Saxby Chambliss. That election pitted the war hero Max Cleland, a popular incumbent, against far-right novice Saxby Chambliss. The pre-election polls showed Cleland with a comfortable lead–and yet Chambliss “won” by a wide margin. To date, the truth behind that upset “victory” (and the equally surprising win by Sonny Perdue, the rightist candidate for governor) has been confirmed by three different whistle-blowers–including Chris Hood, who worked for Diebold in 2002.

In a video interview with VR, Hood has stated that, not long before Election Day, he was ordered by Bob Urosevich, president of Diebold‘s voting-machine division (and a self-proclaimed GOP partisan) to place illegal software patches on hundreds of voting machines in the Democratic-leaning counties of Fulton and DeKalb. Hood, and the other Diebold employees involved in that stealth operation, were told not to discuss these patches with any state officials. Documents provided to VR by Hood show that Cathy Cox, then Georgia’s Secretary of State, had no knowledge of those patches at the time.

Hood’s account has been corroborated by cyber-security expert Stephen Spoonamore, who has stated that Hood gave him a copy of the Georgia patch, which he analyzed and then turned it over to the FBI Cyber Squad in Washington for investigation. According to Spoonamore, the patch could have been used to flip the votes cast on Diebold’s machines from Cleland to Chambliss. In his expert opinion, Max Cleland was the real winner of that election, which Saxby Chambliss stole with Diebold’s help.


http://allisonkilkenny.com/2008/11/100000-reward-for-election-rigging-information/

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I live in Georgia and want her to primary Sackless banned from Kos Nov 2012 #1
Sounds good. elleng Nov 2012 #3
Do you think Max Cleland could make a come back? Submariner Nov 2012 #4
No, Max will be 72 in 2014 and he is ailing. banned from Kos Nov 2012 #10
Agreed. It was a disgrace that GA chose to turn their backs on him. freshwest Nov 2012 #14
In 2002 it wasn't Georgia but diebold that did the damage Botany Nov 2012 #25
cleland was apparently a victim of the same kind of election fraud as gore and kerry, if I remember niyad Nov 2012 #11
No, Cleland was a victim of a Karl Rove smear campaign banned from Kos Nov 2012 #12
That was the apparent reason and sadly, the voting wasn't verifiable by hand counting. Overseas Nov 2012 #18
Former GA SoS, Cathy Cox (D) was responsible for GA being the 1st state to go 100% Diebold CottonBear Nov 2012 #35
I was sad to read that too! Our party should have resisted that trend as a bloc. Overseas Nov 2012 #46
You're right: Democratic officeholders should've NOT chosen Diebold/no receipts/secret software. CottonBear Nov 2012 #50
I agree. Exit polling used to track well. Then it diverged and oddly, with a strong red shift Overseas Nov 2012 #51
Thanks for the link Overseas. CottonBear Nov 2012 #55
Not sure it would be an improvement. Georgia's repubs set a new standard for vile.. Hoyt Nov 2012 #8
Be careful what you wish for!!! SkyDaddy7 Nov 2012 #37
In fact Chambliss is willing to break the Norquist Pledge! alp227 Nov 2012 #43
Not exactly sure your point? SkyDaddy7 Nov 2012 #58
Isn't the nuttier primary challenger going to make an issue about of the pledge? alp227 Nov 2012 #59
Find us a REAL Democrat that Georgia Dems could be excited about... Panasonic Nov 2012 #2
I hope she has to primary against a vulnerable "conservative" first. She's got a ton of negative ... marble falls Nov 2012 #5
I just don't see Handel beating Chambliss, but a bloody primary fight would be sweet. groundloop Nov 2012 #6
I agree, she seems like a likeweight davidpdx Nov 2012 #33
Either way adieu Nov 2012 #7
Love it. She's a destroyer, may as well go after the GOP next. Faygo Kid Nov 2012 #9
Oh, RUN...please run!! Hulk Nov 2012 #13
Even if she didn't flip Georgia, the extremism would help us in other states 0rganism Nov 2012 #16
The more highly visible tea party candidates the better Democat Nov 2012 #34
Possible scenario? trishtrash Nov 2012 #15
Of course, -we- would never support a Blue Dog, right? brooklynite Nov 2012 #23
I see what you did there:-) CitizenPatriot Nov 2012 #48
Booooooo!!!!!! elbloggoZY27 Nov 2012 #17
She's Got Something to Prove- She Was Humiliated fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #19
She would win easily, assuming she wins the white male preferring primary. nt onehandle Nov 2012 #20
The woman made me sick SoapBox Nov 2012 #21
So...the Georgia Teabaggers think Handel's "The Messiah?" Ken Burch Nov 2012 #22
Brump bump! nt Walk away Nov 2012 #27
Oh daaaaaaaang! Iggo Nov 2012 #30
Hope she dies from an ectopic pregnancy she can't get treated. leftlibdem420 Nov 2012 #24
did these yahoos learn nothing from 2012? Botany Nov 2012 #26
To learn something, they'd have to admit they have something to learn. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #31
Think you need education, talent, and intelligence to run for office? JoeyT Nov 2012 #28
Really, Chambliss isn't Right-Wing enough for these people now? Mr.Turnip Nov 2012 #29
Go fool, go!! Hulk Nov 2012 #32
Run, Karen, Run!! Make Saxby sweat!!! nt msanthrope Nov 2012 #36
When a republican is publicly humiliated, they decide to run for office. Sarah Palin comes to mind. loudsue Nov 2012 #38
I hope she wins Andy Stanton Nov 2012 #39
Hope she is not expecting any support from women (or > 1/2 the population). joanbarnes Nov 2012 #40
Wow LeftishBrit Nov 2012 #41
She set back breast cancer prevention---and she thinks she deserves a reward? McCamy Taylor Nov 2012 #42
I won't miss chambliss after what he did to Max Cleland hrmjustin Nov 2012 #44
Great another women who will suck up to men in order to make women 2nd class citizens LynneSin Nov 2012 #45
Yeah, good luck with that one bitch. (not you LynneSin, her.) smirkymonkey Nov 2012 #52
I'm willing to promote the potential candidacy of any . . . MrModerate Nov 2012 #47
From what I remember of GA Politics... DAMANgoldberg Nov 2012 #49
I hope she runs and gets CRUSHED. Arugula Latte Nov 2012 #53
As a registered GA dem .. neither one deserves my vote. YOHABLO Nov 2012 #54
The Breast Cancer Community mchill Nov 2012 #56
Wonder what her stand is on federal help with Medicaid? YOHABLO Nov 2012 #57
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