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In reply to the discussion: Colorado judge keeps Trump on 2024 primary ballot as latest 14th Amendment case falters [View all]riversedge
(80,864 posts)10. "the 14th Amendment's ban on insurrectionists holding office does not apply to the president. ." was the Ruling.........
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/17/politics/trump-colorado-ballot-14th-amendment-insurrection/index.html?Date=20231118&Profile=CNN&utm_content=1700265882&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
..............The 14th Amendment, ratified after the Civil War, says American officials who take an oath to support the Constitution are banned from future office if they engaged in insurrection. But the Constitution doesnt say how to enforce the ban, and it has only been applied twice since 1919 which is why many experts view these lawsuits as long shots.
The provision explicitly bans insurrectionists from serving as US senators, representatives, and even presidential electors but it does not say presidents. It says it covers any office, civil or military, under the United States, and Wallace ruled that this does not include the office of the presidency.
After considering the arguments on both sides, the Court is persuaded that officers of the United States, did not include the President of the United States, Wallace wrote. It appears to the Court that for whatever reason the drafters of Section Three did not intend to include a person who had only taken the Presidential Oath.
Legal scholars believe these cases will, in some form, end up at the US Supreme Court. But before that, the GOP and independent voters who filed the Colorado lawsuit in coordination with a liberal watchdog group, could first file an appeal to the Colorado Supreme Court.
Trump engaged in an insurrection
In her ruling, Wallace concluded that Trump engaged in the January 6 insurrection by inciting his supporters to attack the US Capitol but that the 14th Amendments ban on insurrectionists holding office does not apply to the president. ...............
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Colorado judge keeps Trump on 2024 primary ballot as latest 14th Amendment case falters [View all]
LetMyPeopleVote
Nov 2023
OP
Sure, after you point out where it says anyone can claim he's an insurrectionist. We need to beat trump at polls
Silent Type
Nov 2023
#8
I find it best to read posts for content, rather than pointing at, and mouthing, each word, looking
Silent Type
Nov 2023
#11
Aren't we presumed innocent until proven guilty? Why would this be different?
oldsoftie
Nov 2023
#36
Maybe they thought it was glaringly obvious that the presidency was the preeminent office in the country.
LudwigPastorius
Nov 2023
#17
The judge said he's on ballot, all the other stuff carries little, if any, weight. Michigan also dismissed
Silent Type
Nov 2023
#23
Watched a fairly comprehensive program on C-SPAN that addressed the applicability of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
24601
Nov 2023
#24
So parents preserving, protecting, and defending their children are not supporting them? Nonsense
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2023
#29
Actual words make the difference in determining legal outcomes. Bronston v. United States, 409 U.S. 352 (1973) for
24601
Nov 2023
#35
Thank our atty gen for wasting a year before doing something about all this.
diverdownjt
Nov 2023
#31
Colorado judge rules Trump 'engaged in insurrection' -- but can still run for president
LetMyPeopleVote
Nov 2023
#5
"the 14th Amendment's ban on insurrectionists holding office does not apply to the president. ." was the Ruling.........
riversedge
Nov 2023
#10
I see. Judges that are dealing with Trump's criminal charges aren't afraid of him...
brooklynite
Nov 2023
#21
"any office, civil or military, under the United States," What office does the President come under ? Civil office?
Mr. Sparkle
Nov 2023
#13
This is BS. Since when does insurrection happen then? He tried to circumvent a election victory by
SWBTATTReg
Nov 2023
#14
The gambit was trying to stop Trump from getting elected by kicking him off the ballot...
brooklynite
Nov 2023
#20
Prof. Tribe and Judge Luttig thinks that this ruling will end being a win
LetMyPeopleVote
Nov 2023
#27
Professor Tribe and Judge Luttig explain why the Colorado 14th Amendment decision is wrong
LetMyPeopleVote
Nov 2023
#38
Professor Tribe and Judge Luttig are great on TV, but I sure wouldn't want them defending me. Luttig takes
Silent Type
Nov 2023
#39
CO judge's 'bizarro' Trump eligibility ruling ripped apart by constitutional law experts
LetMyPeopleVote
Nov 2023
#48
Plaintiffs will appeal Colorado's decision to allow Trump to remain on the ballot
LetMyPeopleVote
Nov 2023
#52
The Colorado Supreme Court set arguments for 12/6 in the TFG 14th Amendment disqualification case
LetMyPeopleVote
Nov 2023
#53