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AnrothElf

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16. The difference being, of course, that removing Netanyahu can be done via democratic processes...

Tue Dec 12, 2023, 12:35 PM

Dec 2023

Hamas cannot.

When will Gazans hold another election? Where are the anti-Hamas protests? Why, in the last 17 years of Hamas "rule", has no opposition party emerged to challenge their power in Gaza?

Why were non-Hamas Palestinians holding hostages for Hamas? And raping them?

Could it be because... and this might seem like a stretch to you... the average Gazan actually SUPPORTS Hamas?

Crazy talk, I know.

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'I am a Zionist,' says Biden at Hanukkah event, promises continued military assistance to Israel [View all] catsudon Dec 2023 OP

Well, He Just Lost the Muslim Vote Deep State Witch Dec 2023 #1

It certainly seems like Biden could have affirmed his support for Israel without using such a provocative phrase. NT Midwestern Democrat Dec 2023 #15

Support for Israel IS Zionism yardwork Dec 2023 #34

He shouldn't have used a term that is subject to widespread interpretation LeftInTX Dec 2023 #35

Um, no. We can only dumb down the country so far. yardwork Dec 2023 #36

Let's teach it in school then. I never learned it in school LeftInTX Dec 2023 #40

I know, right? Same here. yardwork Dec 2023 #44

Is it more or less provocative sarisataka Dec 2023 #41

He already had it lost Bixtas Dec 2023 #53

Stop it Joe. Read the damn room, and not just the one you are in. Autumn Dec 2023 #2

FYI Hieronymus Phact Dec 2023 #7

And what does saying "Palestine has every right to be a state" make me? Autumn Dec 2023 #12

it makes you a supporter of a Palestinean state. Hieronymus Phact Dec 2023 #14

The poster is correct. You just affirmed a commitment to Zionism. yardwork Dec 2023 #28

The issue is what to do about the non-Jewish people there IronLionZion Dec 2023 #3

The non-Jewish people where? OilemFirchen Dec 2023 #5

Only if you exclude Gaza, West Bank, and right of return for other Palestinians IronLionZion Dec 2023 #13

Gaza and the West Bank are not part of Israel. OilemFirchen Dec 2023 #19

Jordan has taken in millions of refugees and given most of them full Jordanian citizenship IronLionZion Dec 2023 #24

HAD taken them in. HAD given them citizenship. OilemFirchen Dec 2023 #29

You are absolutely right they aren't part of Israel, which is why the Israeli settlements in the West Bank are illegal prodigitalson Dec 2023 #25

Not sure of your point, but I agree. (n/t) OilemFirchen Dec 2023 #26

ok...glad to hear it. prodigitalson Dec 2023 #27

Israel wants the land in the West Bank IronLionZion Dec 2023 #61

The nation members of the UN moniss Dec 2023 #17

As above, why is the onus on Israel? OilemFirchen Dec 2023 #21

See MAGA reaction to immigration IronLionZion Dec 2023 #31

You've already got very large refugee camps that moniss Dec 2023 #59

I am glad he said it so clearly sarisataka Dec 2023 #4

The obstacle to a two state solution is Netanyahu. He has kept Hamas in power to make sure Autumn Dec 2023 #6

Apologies for not mentioning Netanyahu sarisataka Dec 2023 #9

The difference being, of course, that removing Netanyahu can be done via democratic processes... AnrothElf Dec 2023 #16

Depends on what average is. Autumn Dec 2023 #18

So if that's accurate, and only 20% of Gazans support Hamas... AnrothElf Dec 2023 #50

Do the Palestinians get to decide if they want to hold elections? Hint: Autumn Dec 2023 #51

Correct. Because they don't have a democracy. AnrothElf Dec 2023 #55

I will only read your headline. So you knew the answer to the question you asked me? Autumn Dec 2023 #57

Yeah... it's called a "rhetorical question". AnrothElf Dec 2023 #58

not crazy talk... agingdem Dec 2023 #23

Palestinians have been rejecting peace offers since before Bibi was born. Mosby Dec 2023 #39

That doesn't change the fact Netanyahu kept Hamas in power because a two state Autumn Dec 2023 #42

No he didn't. Mosby Dec 2023 #46

Yes he did. He nor Hamas wanted a two state solution. He openly admitted that. Autumn Dec 2023 #47

Ok Mosby Dec 2023 #48

It was an intelligence failure. Perhaps along the lines of the August 6, 2001 PDF. Autumn Dec 2023 #49

No question there was an intelligence failure... AnrothElf Dec 2023 #52

Reject whatever you want, you're free to do so. I do not support what Israel is doing. Autumn Dec 2023 #54

Point stands. You wanna ceasefire? Gotta get Hamas to cease firing. AnrothElf Dec 2023 #56

What's the context? Bixtas Dec 2023 #8

Context: TheProle Dec 2023 #10

I wonder if Pres. Biden got his inspiration from Pres. Kennedy? Sal_NV Dec 2023 #11

A really dumb thing to say. Lordy! HUAJIAO Dec 2023 #20

Israel is our ally. Zionism means a commitment to Israel's existence. yardwork Dec 2023 #30

I've heard people Delphinus Dec 2023 #32

I don't know. yardwork Dec 2023 #33

John Hagee LeftInTX Dec 2023 #37

I posted a thread on Zionism here a few minutes ago. yardwork Dec 2023 #38

Here is an article from Wikipedia about Christian Zionism LeftInTX Dec 2023 #43

Oh, the End Timers!! yardwork Dec 2023 #45

I am so glad that President Biden is our POTUS LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #22

Me too. Behind the Aegis Dec 2023 #60