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AnrothElf

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55. Correct. Because they don't have a democracy.

Tue Dec 12, 2023, 04:16 PM

Dec 2023

They don't even have a government. They have a terrorist organization stealing their wealth and spending it on rockets to shoot at Israel, or just sending it out of Gaza to enrich their Islamofascist cronies.

Remember the huge uprising during the Arab Spring, when Palestinians in Gaza rioted against their Hamas overlords and the PA?

Yeah... me neither.

It's hard not to draw the conclusion that the average Gazan doesn't give a fuck about democracy, or having a stable government. It's hard not to draw the reasonable conclusion that the average Gazan wants to destroy Israel "from the river to the sea".

Does that mean Israel should kill all their women and children? No, obviously.

But those in the best position to overthrow Hamas are the "average Gazans", and... 17 years on... CRICKETS.

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Let's teach it in school then. I never learned it in school LeftInTX Dec 2023 #40

I know, right? Same here. yardwork Dec 2023 #44

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He already had it lost Bixtas Dec 2023 #53

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FYI Hieronymus Phact Dec 2023 #7

And what does saying "Palestine has every right to be a state" make me? Autumn Dec 2023 #12

it makes you a supporter of a Palestinean state. Hieronymus Phact Dec 2023 #14

The poster is correct. You just affirmed a commitment to Zionism. yardwork Dec 2023 #28

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The non-Jewish people where? OilemFirchen Dec 2023 #5

Only if you exclude Gaza, West Bank, and right of return for other Palestinians IronLionZion Dec 2023 #13

Gaza and the West Bank are not part of Israel. OilemFirchen Dec 2023 #19

Jordan has taken in millions of refugees and given most of them full Jordanian citizenship IronLionZion Dec 2023 #24

HAD taken them in. HAD given them citizenship. OilemFirchen Dec 2023 #29

You are absolutely right they aren't part of Israel, which is why the Israeli settlements in the West Bank are illegal prodigitalson Dec 2023 #25

Not sure of your point, but I agree. (n/t) OilemFirchen Dec 2023 #26

ok...glad to hear it. prodigitalson Dec 2023 #27

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The nation members of the UN moniss Dec 2023 #17

As above, why is the onus on Israel? OilemFirchen Dec 2023 #21

See MAGA reaction to immigration IronLionZion Dec 2023 #31

You've already got very large refugee camps that moniss Dec 2023 #59

I am glad he said it so clearly sarisataka Dec 2023 #4

The obstacle to a two state solution is Netanyahu. He has kept Hamas in power to make sure Autumn Dec 2023 #6

Apologies for not mentioning Netanyahu sarisataka Dec 2023 #9

The difference being, of course, that removing Netanyahu can be done via democratic processes... AnrothElf Dec 2023 #16

Depends on what average is. Autumn Dec 2023 #18

So if that's accurate, and only 20% of Gazans support Hamas... AnrothElf Dec 2023 #50

Do the Palestinians get to decide if they want to hold elections? Hint: Autumn Dec 2023 #51

Correct. Because they don't have a democracy. AnrothElf Dec 2023 #55

I will only read your headline. So you knew the answer to the question you asked me? Autumn Dec 2023 #57

Yeah... it's called a "rhetorical question". AnrothElf Dec 2023 #58

not crazy talk... agingdem Dec 2023 #23

Palestinians have been rejecting peace offers since before Bibi was born. Mosby Dec 2023 #39

That doesn't change the fact Netanyahu kept Hamas in power because a two state Autumn Dec 2023 #42

No he didn't. Mosby Dec 2023 #46

Yes he did. He nor Hamas wanted a two state solution. He openly admitted that. Autumn Dec 2023 #47

Ok Mosby Dec 2023 #48

It was an intelligence failure. Perhaps along the lines of the August 6, 2001 PDF. Autumn Dec 2023 #49

No question there was an intelligence failure... AnrothElf Dec 2023 #52

Reject whatever you want, you're free to do so. I do not support what Israel is doing. Autumn Dec 2023 #54

Point stands. You wanna ceasefire? Gotta get Hamas to cease firing. AnrothElf Dec 2023 #56

What's the context? Bixtas Dec 2023 #8

Context: TheProle Dec 2023 #10

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Oh, the End Timers!! yardwork Dec 2023 #45

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