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33. Saying that "times have changed" is so obvious that it's meaningless and irrelevant.
Wed Dec 20, 2023, 01:13 PM
Dec 2023

To attempt to make sense of the obvious, your allusions SEEMED to point to the lack of need.

Since you admit there IS a need, I ask you once again how giving away domestic business will “help to modernize a lagging and outdated steel industry and to help us to remain competitive in the domestic and global market.

It may help Japan who is an ally but, America needs a strengthened manufacturing base.

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Nippon Steel agreed to keep all collective bargaining agreements in place and to keep the USS HQ in Pittsburgh. Axelrods_Typewriter Dec 2023 #1
"Nothing will change." For how long? Novara Dec 2023 #2
Exactly Rebl2 Dec 2023 #41
I worked for a steel company taken over by a Russian oligarch that promised the doc03 Dec 2023 #7
UAW is unionizing several Toyota and Honda plants as we speak. Axelrods_Typewriter Dec 2023 #12
I don't know, could it be they sold the Fremont factory because of the Union contract? By the way doc03 Dec 2023 #13
They sold it because it was too far from their supply chains that are centered around the midwest Axelrods_Typewriter Dec 2023 #14
Iirc, Cleveland Cliffs tried to make an offer to buy USX lonely bird Dec 2023 #3
Cleveland Cliffs is also a foreign company. former9thward Dec 2023 #18
Link shows ownership of Cleveland Cliffs lonely bird Dec 2023 #20
The CEO of Clevelalnd Cliffs is a Brazilian. former9thward Dec 2023 #23
Well, that obviously means foreign ownership lonely bird Dec 2023 #28
Oh come on. Cleveland Cliffs is not a foreign company & Goncalves has lived in the US for decades mathematic Dec 2023 #37
The Steelmaking part of Cleveland Cliffs is by far the majority of its income. former9thward Dec 2023 #39
Can we take a 30 second break here and ask... CincyDem Dec 2023 #4
"Go Bengals (vs the Steelers Saturday)!!!" BumRushDaShow Dec 2023 #6
Surprisingly Republican JD Vance is also opposing the sale. live love laugh Dec 2023 #16
JD is playing for the MAGAt base by hyping anti-Asian crap lonely bird Dec 2023 #21
Vance is from Bludogdem Dec 2023 #26
No it's not a "bad deal". The US steel industry is lagging and in need of help. Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #5
That is the bullshit we heard when the Russian oligarch took over our company, none of doc03 Dec 2023 #8
Tell that to the people who worked for Bethlehem Steel Jose Garcia Dec 2023 #10
As I remember the same Russian oligarch Alexy Mordachov {Severstal} was involved with doc03 Dec 2023 #11
How are they going to fill that order book? USS makes 15x more steel than Japan as a whole exports here. mathematic Dec 2023 #38
USX Gary Works employed 36,000 people at one time lonely bird Dec 2023 #22
How does selling off the industry "help"? Who does it "help"? live love laugh Dec 2023 #25
I would expect them to replace management, Bayard Dec 2023 #9
The domestic steel industry plays a crucial role producing military defense equipment. live love laugh Dec 2023 #15
This isn't the 1940's ... WWII (and WWI) are in the past. That's a tired old chestnut. Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #24
Wow. Steel is no longer needed for the military artillery? Says .... you? live love laugh Dec 2023 #27
Show me where I said such a thing. Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #30
" This isn't the 1940's ... WWII (and WWI) are in the past. That's a tired old chestnut." live love laugh Dec 2023 #31
It's easy to see that what you quoted (just now) is not a match to what you previously claimed I said. Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #32
Saying that "times have changed" is so obvious that it's meaningless and irrelevant. live love laugh Dec 2023 #33
Oh please... just stop! I never DENIED that there's a need. Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #34
Retaining the leftovers from the sale does not strengthen our position live love laugh Dec 2023 #35
Yes, I've already explained this to you. Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #36
You can't explain YOUR point that selling off the steel industry benefits the US so you have "had enough." live love laugh Dec 2023 #42
🤣😂🤣 Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #43
I'm with Fetterman. It's past time for the US to start thinking strategically about our industries. Hekate Dec 2023 #17
100%!! This is a matter of national security, onetexan Dec 2023 #29
I agree. rockfordfile Dec 2023 #40
100% for Fetterman orangecrush Dec 2023 #19
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