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Oopsie Daisy

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34. Oh please... just stop! I never DENIED that there's a need.

Wed Dec 20, 2023, 01:26 PM

Dec 2023

>> Since you admit there IS a need
Oh please... just stop! I never DENIED that there's a need. Did I?

>> your allusions SEEMED to point to the lack of
Actually, I never made any such allusions regarding a "lack of need". Did I?

>> America needs a strengthened manufacturing base.
What is it that you think this sale does? Do you believe that steel production in the USA is going to be shut down and ALL operations moved to Japan? (It isn't.)

Here's something that causes some folks to scratch their heads in disbelief: Many "foreign import" vehicles are made right here in the USA. They're manufactured in US plants, and they employ US workers.

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Pa.'s Fetterman wants to block U.S. Steel sale to Japanese firm; Casey calls it 'bad deal' [View all] BumRushDaShow Dec 2023 OP

Nippon Steel agreed to keep all collective bargaining agreements in place and to keep the USS HQ in Pittsburgh. Axelrods_Typewriter Dec 2023 #1

"Nothing will change." For how long? Novara Dec 2023 #2

Exactly Rebl2 Dec 2023 #41

I worked for a steel company taken over by a Russian oligarch that promised the doc03 Dec 2023 #7

UAW is unionizing several Toyota and Honda plants as we speak. Axelrods_Typewriter Dec 2023 #12

I don't know, could it be they sold the Fremont factory because of the Union contract? By the way doc03 Dec 2023 #13

They sold it because it was too far from their supply chains that are centered around the midwest Axelrods_Typewriter Dec 2023 #14

Iirc, Cleveland Cliffs tried to make an offer to buy USX lonely bird Dec 2023 #3

Cleveland Cliffs is also a foreign company. former9thward Dec 2023 #18

Link shows ownership of Cleveland Cliffs lonely bird Dec 2023 #20

The CEO of Clevelalnd Cliffs is a Brazilian. former9thward Dec 2023 #23

Well, that obviously means foreign ownership lonely bird Dec 2023 #28

Oh come on. Cleveland Cliffs is not a foreign company & Goncalves has lived in the US for decades mathematic Dec 2023 #37

The Steelmaking part of Cleveland Cliffs is by far the majority of its income. former9thward Dec 2023 #39

Can we take a 30 second break here and ask... CincyDem Dec 2023 #4

"Go Bengals (vs the Steelers Saturday)!!!" BumRushDaShow Dec 2023 #6

Surprisingly Republican JD Vance is also opposing the sale. live love laugh Dec 2023 #16

JD is playing for the MAGAt base by hyping anti-Asian crap lonely bird Dec 2023 #21

Vance is from Bludogdem Dec 2023 #26

No it's not a "bad deal". The US steel industry is lagging and in need of help. Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #5

That is the bullshit we heard when the Russian oligarch took over our company, none of doc03 Dec 2023 #8

Tell that to the people who worked for Bethlehem Steel Jose Garcia Dec 2023 #10

As I remember the same Russian oligarch Alexy Mordachov {Severstal} was involved with doc03 Dec 2023 #11

How are they going to fill that order book? USS makes 15x more steel than Japan as a whole exports here. mathematic Dec 2023 #38

USX Gary Works employed 36,000 people at one time lonely bird Dec 2023 #22

How does selling off the industry "help"? Who does it "help"? live love laugh Dec 2023 #25

I would expect them to replace management, Bayard Dec 2023 #9

The domestic steel industry plays a crucial role producing military defense equipment. live love laugh Dec 2023 #15

This isn't the 1940's ... WWII (and WWI) are in the past. That's a tired old chestnut. Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #24

Wow. Steel is no longer needed for the military artillery? Says .... you? live love laugh Dec 2023 #27

Show me where I said such a thing. Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #30

" This isn't the 1940's ... WWII (and WWI) are in the past. That's a tired old chestnut." live love laugh Dec 2023 #31

It's easy to see that what you quoted (just now) is not a match to what you previously claimed I said. Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #32

Saying that "times have changed" is so obvious that it's meaningless and irrelevant. live love laugh Dec 2023 #33

Oh please... just stop! I never DENIED that there's a need. Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #34

Retaining the leftovers from the sale does not strengthen our position live love laugh Dec 2023 #35

Yes, I've already explained this to you. Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #36

You can't explain YOUR point that selling off the steel industry benefits the US so you have "had enough." live love laugh Dec 2023 #42

🤣😂🤣 Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #43

I'm with Fetterman. It's past time for the US to start thinking strategically about our industries. Hekate Dec 2023 #17

100%!! This is a matter of national security, onetexan Dec 2023 #29

I agree. rockfordfile Dec 2023 #40

100% for Fetterman orangecrush Dec 2023 #19