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SlimJimmy

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49. There was no 14th amendment (no section 3 or 5) Jefferson davis was
Sat Jan 6, 2024, 08:27 AM
Jan 2024

not convicted or charged under section 5 of the 14th amendment because there was no amendment at the time.

But this 1862 bill was enacted before the 1868 ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment. Therefore, Congress could not have enacted this law based on its authority under Section 5 of the Fourteenth Amendment. Congress would have to rely on the Constitution of 1788. And, as explained, the original Constitution did not permit Congress to add additional qualifications for elected positions.

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K&R onecaliberal Dec 2023 #1
They are updated now! BumRushDaShow Dec 2023 #2
He won't get removed from the states he was going to win anyway... malthaussen Dec 2023 #3
This will sure upset Ms Collins. republianmushroom Dec 2023 #4
Good for my State. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2023 #5
No. SCOTUS doesn't have to decide whether or not it was an insurrection FBaggins Dec 2023 #10
Was Jefferson Davis convicted of a crime? speak easy Dec 2023 #21
By affiliation with the CSA, they were deemed insurrectionists. I think SC Silent Type Dec 2023 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author speak easy Dec 2023 #29
+According to section 5 of the 14th amendment, section 3 is only enforceable if Congress acts. SlimJimmy Dec 2023 #32
"only enforceable if Congress acts" Not so. speak easy Dec 2023 #36
Section 5 addresses enforcement. Why is DU ignoring this? SlimJimmy Dec 2023 #40
And the whole point of section 5,as it relates to section 3, requires a conviction SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #44
... because Jefferson Davis was convicted, right? speak easy Jan 2024 #45
Was the law in effect at that time? SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #46
THE 14th Amendment was ratified on July 9, 1868. speak easy Jan 2024 #48
There was no 14th amendment (no section 3 or 5) Jefferson davis was SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #49
That's right. Because the 14th didnt exist then. But it does now. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #50
This is ridiculous.. speak easy Jan 2024 #52
The 14th didn't exist then. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #51
He was the elected president of the Confederacy FBaggins Dec 2023 #35
With Davis, it was super clear-cut though Polybius Dec 2023 #41
The USSC doesn't decide if there was an insurrection or not. Neither do the various states. SlimJimmy Dec 2023 #31
BREAKING: Maine Secretary of State rules Trump is ineligible to appear on 2024 ballot. LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #6
Maine does not allot all electoral votes to person getting majority in the state. LiberalFighter Dec 2023 #7
So... Trump's Maine campaign may be in vain? tinrobot Dec 2023 #8
Insane. BWdem4life Dec 2023 #30
Wheeeeeeeeeeee! Novara Dec 2023 #9
Two down....48 to go! Farmgirl1961 Dec 2023 #11
We don't need 48 more ... VMA131Marine Dec 2023 #27
Fun? You think this is a game? Are you okay with the Repukes doing the same thing to us? SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #47
Maine's top election official disqualifies Donald Trump from the 2024 primary ballot on 14th amendment grounds. LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #12
Electorally disgorged. DJ Porkchop Dec 2023 #13
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2023 #14
CNN is calling the Colorado ruling "stunning." It isn't "stunning." It simply refers to what the amendment says. NNadir Dec 2023 #15
Did they ever acknowledge WMD meant Words of Mass Deception? Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2023 #17
No, it doesn't SlimJimmy Dec 2023 #33
The word "must" does not appear in section 5 of the 14th amendment. NNadir Dec 2023 #34
Bottom line SlimJimmy Dec 2023 #39
C'mon scotus. Give us a ruling across all 50 states.... getagrip_already Dec 2023 #16
*Maybe* the SC will not like the SMELL of this case.... DemocraticPatriot Dec 2023 #23
They will absolutely take it..... getagrip_already Dec 2023 #37
BECAUSE he is not qualified to hold the office of the President under sect 3 of 14th Amendment. ffr Dec 2023 #18
Do we really want a single person to have the power to disqualify *any* candidate? Nt Fiendish Thingy Dec 2023 #20
Which 'single person' are you referring to, here ? DemocraticPatriot Dec 2023 #24
It's not a single person ... VMA131Marine Dec 2023 #28
They stayed the ruling pending review by the courts.... getagrip_already Dec 2023 #38
Susan Collins must be so "concerned"!!! FakeNoose Dec 2023 #19
She was bitching on xitter that the people of Maine should be able to choose for themselves SouthernDem4ever Dec 2023 #25
Has Clarence Thomas summarily overturned this by fiat yet? Orrex Dec 2023 #22
It would have to be Gorsuch FBaggins Dec 2023 #42
I stand corrected. I had my circuits crossed. Orrex Dec 2023 #43
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