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Don Spikers

(6 posts)
38. It's sad she died over Trumps lies. Trump should be the one sued.
Sat Jan 6, 2024, 01:00 PM
Jan 2024

I felt sadness that Trumps lies caused so much carnage and death that day. Not just her.
1. I have all the video on my pc from that area. I won't post it. You can find it.

2. Video of the shooting is on the internet if you look for it. I have many views of it from postings online. I don't see why they would file a lawsuit other than for politics and money. Bad legal advice to drag this out.

3. I can tell not many people have seen the videos of the shooting and the first-aid given by police and a gurney trip to the ambulance.
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5. It was breaking and entering at the capital. There were no permits for “Stop the Steal” in the capital area due to the congress in session.

6. A person that was not pursuing there own personal form or method of justice would have left the capital. It was out of control. Crowds fighting police, vandalism, breaking windows and doors, beating and tasering cops bear spraying cops, hitting cops with what ever they could find, great amount of violence Fire Extinguishers flags a latter poles were used. An angry mob chanting hang Mike Pence, Where's Nancy, Fuck the Blue. Acts of Insurrection all around. The police knew there were gallows outside. What is a cop to do when they enter the chamber while congress is still seen in the windows.

7. Men were beating out the windows to the chamber where you could see the congress looking at the crowd outside the doors. You can also see furniture piled up against the doors. One man was punching and breaking the windows just missing a cops head each time the through the punch. You could see the officer flinch. The officers did not respond back as they were so out numbered. Lots of shouting. People told her to get down many times “He has a gun”. You hear the shot and see her fall back from the widow unto the crowd.
8. That shot stopped the rest from entering the chamber. I Think more would have been shot if they tried to enter the area where the congress was still present. I feel if they had gotten in they would have done to congressmen what they did to the police. Used broke chair legs or what ever to injure congress.

9. Some knowing and some not, It seems they were starting a war that is still on simmer because the same man is still pushing this country into another one this year in November. I hope the SCOTUS does what it needs to do, but even then what will happen.

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They got some bad legal advice, all of them looking to make lots of $$$ elleng Jan 2024 #1
The rioters were told to disperse, they didn't ... Ashli was trespassing and breaking the law FakeNoose Jan 2024 #55
I dunno about her not posing a threat. She tried to get thru a broken window... brush Jan 2024 #2
Bottom line, she was unarmed. She should have never been shot. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #16
Have you seen the video? Playingmantis Jan 2024 #22
Post removed Post removed Jan 2024 #102
What an interesting observation dpibel Jan 2024 #107
If I remember correctly RoeVWade Jan 2024 #109
Everyone has an opinion, among other things. brush Jan 2024 #23
My Step brother was on the other side of that door. Lochloosa Jan 2024 #28
No she didn't. And you know that. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #98
Yep. dchill Jan 2024 #105
That was the last door protecting my brother. Exactly what "real police" work is required? Lochloosa Jan 2024 #125
A lot more of them ... Charging Triceratops Jan 2024 #138
and how were they to know that she was unharmed. It was such a "friendly crowd". They were prepared to stop the JohnSJ Jan 2024 #33
She had a backpack and was screaming incoherently. They could not allow her to advance further. Midnight Writer Jan 2024 #49
She could have been a suicide bomber ArkansasDemocrat1 Jan 2024 #70
And they could have used less than lethal force to stop her. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #103
They are armed with handguns. Lochloosa Jan 2024 #144
Exactly and she was told by officers present not to go through that window. GreenWave Jan 2024 #147
THEY needed to know this! MyOwnPeace Jan 2024 #151
I don't know what you saw Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #34
On the other end of the spectrum tazkcmo Jan 2024 #36
🤜🤛 Traildogbob Jan 2024 #67
Brazil didn't FAFO with their insurrectionists ArkansasDemocrat1 Jan 2024 #71
Absolutely Traildogbob Jan 2024 #72
If you had been the police officer facing a mob shouting Hang Mike Pence Frances Jan 2024 #43
I think I was a police officer for 38 years. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #97
Interesting atreides1 Jan 2024 #152
How were you trained to treat an unarmed person Frances Jan 2024 #158
She was told repeatedly not to come in thru the window. It was unknown to the person that shot her PortTack Jan 2024 #44
Again, for clarity, less than lethal force would have worked just as well. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #104
I don't think kacekwl Jan 2024 #135
Not necessarily...some of the other officers lost their lives trying to use less than deadly force! PortTack Jan 2024 #145
She was a member of an insurrectionist mob violently storming the capitol Orrex Jan 2024 #155
They all should have been shot. JenniferJuniper Jan 2024 #51
Agree! PortTack Jan 2024 #65
Yes, let's just shoot all the BLM rioters while we're at it as well. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #96
What does kacekwl Jan 2024 #136
BLM didn't try to overthrow the US government JenniferJuniper Jan 2024 #150
I've been seeing that false equivalence from a lot of Reichwingers on FB lately Orrex Jan 2024 #156
The shot was the only thing that kept the crowd from breaking through the door with a clear intent KPN Jan 2024 #61
How do you know their intent? SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #95
"Hang Mike Pence" dpibel Jan 2024 #110
Read with me. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #124
Have you watched the video? What, they were just KPN Jan 2024 #157
How would he know she was unarmed TexasBushwhacker Jan 2024 #73
If he was trained properly, he would have aimed for center mass. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #94
"Decedent made a furtive motion toward his waistband" dpibel Jan 2024 #111
She was the point man of a violent, raging mob Mysterian Jan 2024 #78
No, not by police standards. I don't care where you heard it. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #93
There's already been an investigation by law enforcement Mysterian Jan 2024 #130
Do you think the family should be suing Trump? Kaleva Jan 2024 #88
No, that's not going to bring her back. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #92
So the family shouldn't sue at all? Kaleva Jan 2024 #149
Do you understand the concept of nwduke Jan 2024 #24
Meaning what? Be clear. brush Jan 2024 #25
There's audio video nwduke Jan 2024 #133
Audi has videos on TV all the time.... rzemanfl Jan 2024 #79
Fixed it! nwduke Jan 2024 #132
She had no gun jimfields33 Jan 2024 #26
They ultimately had to retreat from the chambers Gore1FL Jan 2024 #29
That's fantasy land reasoning. See post 27. brush Jan 2024 #30
In addition, how were they to know they were unarmed? Most ridiculous nonesense I have heard. Capital police JohnSJ Jan 2024 #32
seriously? there was a large group right behind her. Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #35
If the cop would have done that Deep State Witch Jan 2024 #47
Nobody knew whether she was armed or not. yardwork Jan 2024 #52
She did not have a gun visible in her hands at that moment. niyad Jan 2024 #56
I explained that. jimfields33 Jan 2024 #63
Wow. way to avoid the questions. But, nice try. niyad Jan 2024 #64
They should have opened the doors and let them in one at a time while patting them down ArkansasDemocrat1 Jan 2024 #84
Lets see how that could go Timewas Jan 2024 #66
Certainly! Let's sit down and talk about this like sensible people! Aussie105 Jan 2024 #81
Oh great. Now they can do that when a group goes jimfields33 Jan 2024 #82
This was not vandalism, Jim. This was not simple property damage ... marble falls Jan 2024 #85
Thank you for that Hong Kong Cavalier Jan 2024 #141
I just hate it when RW talking points accidently make it into discussions on DU. marble falls Jan 2024 #153
And how were several hundred police supposed to arrest 6,000 other "tourists"? marble falls Jan 2024 #154
Looks like a fund raising scam C_U_L8R Jan 2024 #3
ta da! nt msongs Jan 2024 #5
I really think she'd have better luck suing Trump William Seger Jan 2024 #11
These idiots could not find a real attorney to bring this case and so they are using Judicial Watch assholes LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #4
She ought to sue Trump, imavoter Jan 2024 #6
That terrorist got shot while attacking Congress. ZonkerHarris Jan 2024 #7
By her own statement, right wing heroine Ashli Babbit was WOKE! keithbvadu2 Jan 2024 #8
At least in the Capitol, she didn't take anyone with her. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2024 #13
She was mentally stable. The Grand Illuminist Jan 2024 #15
Wow skydive forever Jan 2024 #68
"GET OVER IT!" - former guy. nt TeamProg Jan 2024 #9
The court should toss it pfitz59 Jan 2024 #10
You think that shooting an unarmed person is a good thing? SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #17
Perhaps you could help us by answering the questions in post 56. niyad Jan 2024 #58
A good thing? Nothing about this was a good thing. yardwork Jan 2024 #59
She was not unarmed pfitz59 Jan 2024 #118
Snitch then? Good to know. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #121
MAGAt family of MAGAt loon doing what MAGAts do best. . .blame others for their crap and then attempt a grift AZLD4Candidate Jan 2024 #12
As I watched this play out on TV... ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2024 #14
I've read all the replies. Are we saying that the officer didn't have any less than lethal options? SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #18
A horde of raving loons battering down the door, ChazInAz Jan 2024 #21
You are absolutely right. They were out to kill some representatives and stop the certification of the election. JohnSJ Jan 2024 #40
It sure seems that way. LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #76
Have you ever seen what bean bag bullets can do? Very effective at stopping people in a less than lethal manner. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #108
The guards had pistols, not riot gear. Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #115
I agree with you pfitz59 Jan 2024 #119
The gear is available to them at a moments notice. That's why they have it. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #120
This is a joke, right? Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #127
Has it been established that this officer had access to bean bag bullets? MaryMagdaline Jan 2024 #128
no it is utter bullshit Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #143
That's fantasy land reasoning. That officer's duty was to protect the Speaker and her staff... brush Jan 2024 #27
After 38 years in law enfoecement, I can tell you with certaintly, that bean bag bullets SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #106
The officer's duty was to protect the Speaker, not some insurrectionist comitting a crime... brush Jan 2024 #113
Never the end to the story. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #123
Well as you claim to be a former leo Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #129
Re-watch the videos. nt Gore1FL Jan 2024 #31
Yes. Shooting her was to best option to shut down the mob storming the chamber. Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #37
Good point. It stoopped the mob from storming the chamber cold. JohnSJ Jan 2024 #41
Because they were cowards. They were not trained military, as they pretended. yardwork Jan 2024 #57
God almighty, you are so wrong. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #100
You're funny. Enjoy the laughs. nt Phoenix61 Jan 2024 #112
You're very close. Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #116
No asps, or expandable Pr24s, or standard batons then? I see. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #122
You clearly did not watch the videos. Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #140
I totally agree with you it was a last resort bottomofthehill Jan 2024 #142
I'm saying tazkcmo Jan 2024 #42
IMO the officer did what he was trained to do - protect Congress. yardwork Jan 2024 #54
The Capital was under attack pfitz59 Jan 2024 #117
I wish I coukd serve on this jury. sinkingfeeling Jan 2024 #19
Republicons Have Some Nerve Mr. Mustard 2023 Jan 2024 #20
It's sad she died over Trumps lies. Trump should be the one sued. Don Spikers Jan 2024 #38
Welcome to DU. Thank you for sharing what you saw. yardwork Jan 2024 #50
Welcome to our DU family. niyad Jan 2024 #60
500,000 of us died because of Trump's lies ArkansasDemocrat1 Jan 2024 #75
As likely has already been correctly noted, J_William_Ryan Jan 2024 #39
If She Hadn't Been Breaking the Law Deep State Witch Jan 2024 #45
You are right! Can somebody show pictures of the protesters shot years ago at Kent State? and Jackson State? raging moderate Jan 2024 #146
Nope. She assumed the risk of harm no_hypocrisy Jan 2024 #46
All I have to say is GET OVER IT! nt doc03 Jan 2024 #48
FAFO Bayard Jan 2024 #53
The Capitol Police Should Have Used Deadly Force Against More of Those Violent Dipshits Mortos Jan 2024 #62
Good luck finding 12 magats for the jury. Cartoonist Jan 2024 #69
Who is advising the family? Trump attorney Alina Habba? LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #74
Why was it filed in Southern California? It happened in Washington DC. LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #77
yes, I believe the trials are susposed to take place where crime committed, even if she riversedge Jan 2024 #89
I personally wouldn't label it a crime. More like an incident. LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #90
Ashli was a domestic terrorist. No different from ISIS. Thank goodness our government was properly defended. texasfiddler Jan 2024 #80
Only one shot fired. Aussie105 Jan 2024 #83
I saw that attorneys from Judicial Watch are representing the plaintiffs LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #86
The cop was just, "standing his ground." Isn't that what the right demands? Chainfire Jan 2024 #87
So much for the party of personal responsibility. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2024 #91
She betrayed the country and her oath of office kevinore Jan 2024 #99
She betrayed the country and her oath of office kevinore Jan 2024 #101
only question to ask, if she was BLM, publikkans would be screaming jan 6 forever. pansypoo53219 Jan 2024 #114
I saw a meme yesterday about Ashlii Babbitt that read... SKKY Jan 2024 #126
By then the mob had attacked and bludgeoned dozens of Capitol Police Zambero Jan 2024 #131
The woman was involved in a felonious assault on the Congress of the U.S. Chainfire Jan 2024 #134
I am... Mike Nelson Jan 2024 #137
Live by the sword, die by the sword. She knew better but didn't give a damn. Oh well. There's no way they will win. Firestorm49 Jan 2024 #139
This lawsuit is a political stunt being pushed by Judicial Watch LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #148
Simple answers here. ificandream Jan 2024 #159
Trump open to possible 'compensation fund' for pardoned Jan. 6 criminals LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2025 #160
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