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53. FAFO

Sat Jan 6, 2024, 02:14 PM

Jan 2024

These cool-headed, brave men were the last line of defense between a raging mob and members of Congress. They did their jobs.

Lordy--there's tapes!

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Ashli Babbitt's family files $30 million lawsuit over Jan. 6 shooting death [View all] BumRushDaShow Jan 2024 OP

They got some bad legal advice, all of them looking to make lots of $$$ elleng Jan 2024 #1

The rioters were told to disperse, they didn't ... Ashli was trespassing and breaking the law FakeNoose Jan 2024 #55

I dunno about her not posing a threat. She tried to get thru a broken window... brush Jan 2024 #2

Bottom line, she was unarmed. She should have never been shot. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #16

Have you seen the video? Playingmantis Jan 2024 #22

Post removed Post removed Jan 2024 #102

What an interesting observation dpibel Jan 2024 #107

If I remember correctly RoeVWade Jan 2024 #109

Everyone has an opinion, among other things. brush Jan 2024 #23

My Step brother was on the other side of that door. Lochloosa Jan 2024 #28

No she didn't. And you know that. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #98

Yep. dchill Jan 2024 #105

That was the last door protecting my brother. Exactly what "real police" work is required? Lochloosa Jan 2024 #125

A lot more of them ... Charging Triceratops Jan 2024 #138

and how were they to know that she was unharmed. It was such a "friendly crowd". They were prepared to stop the JohnSJ Jan 2024 #33

She had a backpack and was screaming incoherently. They could not allow her to advance further. Midnight Writer Jan 2024 #49

She could have been a suicide bomber ArkansasDemocrat1 Jan 2024 #70

And they could have used less than lethal force to stop her. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #103

They are armed with handguns. Lochloosa Jan 2024 #144

Exactly and she was told by officers present not to go through that window. GreenWave Jan 2024 #147

THEY needed to know this! MyOwnPeace Jan 2024 #151

I don't know what you saw Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #34

On the other end of the spectrum tazkcmo Jan 2024 #36

🤜🤛 Traildogbob Jan 2024 #67

Brazil didn't FAFO with their insurrectionists ArkansasDemocrat1 Jan 2024 #71

Absolutely Traildogbob Jan 2024 #72

If you had been the police officer facing a mob shouting Hang Mike Pence Frances Jan 2024 #43

I think I was a police officer for 38 years. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #97

Interesting atreides1 Jan 2024 #152

How were you trained to treat an unarmed person Frances Jan 2024 #158

She was told repeatedly not to come in thru the window. It was unknown to the person that shot her PortTack Jan 2024 #44

Again, for clarity, less than lethal force would have worked just as well. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #104

I don't think kacekwl Jan 2024 #135

Not necessarily...some of the other officers lost their lives trying to use less than deadly force! PortTack Jan 2024 #145

She was a member of an insurrectionist mob violently storming the capitol Orrex Jan 2024 #155

They all should have been shot. JenniferJuniper Jan 2024 #51

Agree! PortTack Jan 2024 #65

Yes, let's just shoot all the BLM rioters while we're at it as well. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #96

What does kacekwl Jan 2024 #136

BLM didn't try to overthrow the US government JenniferJuniper Jan 2024 #150

I've been seeing that false equivalence from a lot of Reichwingers on FB lately Orrex Jan 2024 #156

The shot was the only thing that kept the crowd from breaking through the door with a clear intent KPN Jan 2024 #61

How do you know their intent? SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #95

"Hang Mike Pence" dpibel Jan 2024 #110

Read with me. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #124

Have you watched the video? What, they were just KPN Jan 2024 #157

How would he know she was unarmed TexasBushwhacker Jan 2024 #73

If he was trained properly, he would have aimed for center mass. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #94

"Decedent made a furtive motion toward his waistband" dpibel Jan 2024 #111

She was the point man of a violent, raging mob Mysterian Jan 2024 #78

No, not by police standards. I don't care where you heard it. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #93

There's already been an investigation by law enforcement Mysterian Jan 2024 #130

Do you think the family should be suing Trump? Kaleva Jan 2024 #88

No, that's not going to bring her back. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #92

So the family shouldn't sue at all? Kaleva Jan 2024 #149

Do you understand the concept of nwduke Jan 2024 #24

Meaning what? Be clear. brush Jan 2024 #25

There's audio video nwduke Jan 2024 #133

Audi has videos on TV all the time.... rzemanfl Jan 2024 #79

Fixed it! nwduke Jan 2024 #132

She had no gun jimfields33 Jan 2024 #26

They ultimately had to retreat from the chambers Gore1FL Jan 2024 #29

That's fantasy land reasoning. See post 27. brush Jan 2024 #30

In addition, how were they to know they were unarmed? Most ridiculous nonesense I have heard. Capital police JohnSJ Jan 2024 #32

seriously? there was a large group right behind her. Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #35

If the cop would have done that Deep State Witch Jan 2024 #47

Nobody knew whether she was armed or not. yardwork Jan 2024 #52

She did not have a gun visible in her hands at that moment. niyad Jan 2024 #56

I explained that. jimfields33 Jan 2024 #63

Wow. way to avoid the questions. But, nice try. niyad Jan 2024 #64

They should have opened the doors and let them in one at a time while patting them down ArkansasDemocrat1 Jan 2024 #84

Lets see how that could go Timewas Jan 2024 #66

Certainly! Let's sit down and talk about this like sensible people! Aussie105 Jan 2024 #81

Oh great. Now they can do that when a group goes jimfields33 Jan 2024 #82

This was not vandalism, Jim. This was not simple property damage ... marble falls Jan 2024 #85

Thank you for that Hong Kong Cavalier Jan 2024 #141

I just hate it when RW talking points accidently make it into discussions on DU. marble falls Jan 2024 #153

And how were several hundred police supposed to arrest 6,000 other "tourists"? marble falls Jan 2024 #154

Looks like a fund raising scam C_U_L8R Jan 2024 #3

ta da! nt msongs Jan 2024 #5

I really think she'd have better luck suing Trump William Seger Jan 2024 #11

These idiots could not find a real attorney to bring this case and so they are using Judicial Watch assholes LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #4

She ought to sue Trump, imavoter Jan 2024 #6

That terrorist got shot while attacking Congress. ZonkerHarris Jan 2024 #7

By her own statement, right wing heroine Ashli Babbit was WOKE! keithbvadu2 Jan 2024 #8

At least in the Capitol, she didn't take anyone with her. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2024 #13

She was mentally stable. The Grand Illuminist Jan 2024 #15

Wow skydive forever Jan 2024 #68

"GET OVER IT!" - former guy. nt TeamProg Jan 2024 #9

The court should toss it pfitz59 Jan 2024 #10

You think that shooting an unarmed person is a good thing? SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #17

Perhaps you could help us by answering the questions in post 56. niyad Jan 2024 #58

A good thing? Nothing about this was a good thing. yardwork Jan 2024 #59

She was not unarmed pfitz59 Jan 2024 #118

Snitch then? Good to know. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #121

MAGAt family of MAGAt loon doing what MAGAts do best. . .blame others for their crap and then attempt a grift AZLD4Candidate Jan 2024 #12

As I watched this play out on TV... ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2024 #14

I've read all the replies. Are we saying that the officer didn't have any less than lethal options? SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #18

A horde of raving loons battering down the door, ChazInAz Jan 2024 #21

You are absolutely right. They were out to kill some representatives and stop the certification of the election. JohnSJ Jan 2024 #40

It sure seems that way. LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #76

Have you ever seen what bean bag bullets can do? Very effective at stopping people in a less than lethal manner. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #108

The guards had pistols, not riot gear. Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #115

I agree with you pfitz59 Jan 2024 #119

The gear is available to them at a moments notice. That's why they have it. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #120

This is a joke, right? Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #127

Has it been established that this officer had access to bean bag bullets? MaryMagdaline Jan 2024 #128

no it is utter bullshit Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #143

That's fantasy land reasoning. That officer's duty was to protect the Speaker and her staff... brush Jan 2024 #27

After 38 years in law enfoecement, I can tell you with certaintly, that bean bag bullets SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #106

The officer's duty was to protect the Speaker, not some insurrectionist comitting a crime... brush Jan 2024 #113

Never the end to the story. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #123

Well as you claim to be a former leo Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #129

Re-watch the videos. nt Gore1FL Jan 2024 #31

Yes. Shooting her was to best option to shut down the mob storming the chamber. Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #37

Good point. It stoopped the mob from storming the chamber cold. JohnSJ Jan 2024 #41

Because they were cowards. They were not trained military, as they pretended. yardwork Jan 2024 #57

God almighty, you are so wrong. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #100

You're funny. Enjoy the laughs. nt Phoenix61 Jan 2024 #112

You're very close. Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #116

No asps, or expandable Pr24s, or standard batons then? I see. SlimJimmy Jan 2024 #122

You clearly did not watch the videos. Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #140

I totally agree with you it was a last resort bottomofthehill Jan 2024 #142

I'm saying tazkcmo Jan 2024 #42

IMO the officer did what he was trained to do - protect Congress. yardwork Jan 2024 #54

The Capital was under attack pfitz59 Jan 2024 #117

I wish I coukd serve on this jury. sinkingfeeling Jan 2024 #19

Republicons Have Some Nerve Mr. Mustard 2023 Jan 2024 #20

It's sad she died over Trumps lies. Trump should be the one sued. Don Spikers Jan 2024 #38

Welcome to DU. Thank you for sharing what you saw. yardwork Jan 2024 #50

Welcome to our DU family. niyad Jan 2024 #60

500,000 of us died because of Trump's lies ArkansasDemocrat1 Jan 2024 #75

As likely has already been correctly noted, J_William_Ryan Jan 2024 #39

If She Hadn't Been Breaking the Law Deep State Witch Jan 2024 #45

You are right! Can somebody show pictures of the protesters shot years ago at Kent State? and Jackson State? raging moderate Jan 2024 #146

Nope. She assumed the risk of harm no_hypocrisy Jan 2024 #46

All I have to say is GET OVER IT! nt doc03 Jan 2024 #48

FAFO Bayard Jan 2024 #53

The Capitol Police Should Have Used Deadly Force Against More of Those Violent Dipshits Mortos Jan 2024 #62

Good luck finding 12 magats for the jury. Cartoonist Jan 2024 #69

Who is advising the family? Trump attorney Alina Habba? LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #74

Why was it filed in Southern California? It happened in Washington DC. LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #77

yes, I believe the trials are susposed to take place where crime committed, even if she riversedge Jan 2024 #89

I personally wouldn't label it a crime. More like an incident. LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #90

Ashli was a domestic terrorist. No different from ISIS. Thank goodness our government was properly defended. texasfiddler Jan 2024 #80

Only one shot fired. Aussie105 Jan 2024 #83

I saw that attorneys from Judicial Watch are representing the plaintiffs LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #86

The cop was just, "standing his ground." Isn't that what the right demands? Chainfire Jan 2024 #87

So much for the party of personal responsibility. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2024 #91

She betrayed the country and her oath of office kevinore Jan 2024 #99

She betrayed the country and her oath of office kevinore Jan 2024 #101

only question to ask, if she was BLM, publikkans would be screaming jan 6 forever. pansypoo53219 Jan 2024 #114

I saw a meme yesterday about Ashlii Babbitt that read... SKKY Jan 2024 #126

By then the mob had attacked and bludgeoned dozens of Capitol Police Zambero Jan 2024 #131

The woman was involved in a felonious assault on the Congress of the U.S. Chainfire Jan 2024 #134

I am... Mike Nelson Jan 2024 #137

Live by the sword, die by the sword. She knew better but didn't give a damn. Oh well. There's no way they will win. Firestorm49 Jan 2024 #139

This lawsuit is a political stunt being pushed by Judicial Watch LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #148

Simple answers here. ificandream Jan 2024 #159

Trump open to possible 'compensation fund' for pardoned Jan. 6 criminals LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2025 #160