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Pab Sungenis

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25. Simple.
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 01:44 PM
Jan 2012

Half the delegates are going to be picked in winner-take-all elections after April 1st. Before that most races are proportional. (Florida is an outlier.) This was set up to prevent another early winner like McCain.

Right now Gingrich has 23 delegates (including Perry's). Romney has 21 (including Huntsman's). Santorum has 13, Ron Paul has 3.

Ron Paul might just win the Virginia primary if Newt and Santorum voters pick him to protest their guy being off the ballot, and to keep Romney from benefiting too much from their absence. That would give him incentive to not drop out of the race, and he will continue to pick up delegates in the races he's in, even if he has a poor showing.

Santorum will also continue to pick up delegates. If he stays in through Super Tuesday he will pick up a fair number, keeping either Newt or Mitt from getting the majority of the delegates up for grabs that day.

After that, it all depends on what Santorum does. If he stays in the race, it will hand the nomination to Mitt. If he pulls out and backs Gingrich, then it will be a hard slog between two candidates, neither of whom is in a position to come close to a clean sweep of the post-April races. Romney will win California, Newt will win Texas. Who the hell knows what New York might do; their teahadists might hand it to Newt like they handed the Gubernatorial nomination to Paladino. Pennsylvania is also tea-infected so they're a toss-up. Most of the smaller ones and Southern ones will go to Newt.

And who knows, Newt might flame out and Santorum take over the teahadist vote. That would really confuse things.

What has to happen for a brokered convention right now is for Newt to maintain his current lead, Santorum to stay through Super Tuesday then drop out before April 1st and then back Newt, and for Romney to not have a strong surge if Newt flames out after Santorum drops out.

That's why the odds are about 50-50.

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I think that is good as well mrs_p Jan 2012 #1
Is that the way they pushed Micheal out of the Chairmanship of the Party? mfcorey1 Jan 2012 #2
Like the douche bag knows or has any influence. Just being theatrical - it's reality tv. geckosfeet Jan 2012 #3
It's PR for the convention. Book your room today. EFerrari Jan 2012 #10
I wouldn't believe Steele if he told me my mother loved me Orangepeel Jan 2012 #4
He's right. BiggJawn Jan 2012 #5
Or Jeb! KamaAina Jan 2012 #27
Jeb - the Dark Horse Bush stampede is on. 99th_Monkey Jan 2012 #49
My wife the pundit predicted a brokered convention last October. CanonRay Jan 2012 #6
Steele is an idiot. I just dont see how this happens. DCBob Jan 2012 #7
Simple. Pab Sungenis Jan 2012 #25
I wouldnt call that simple but yes plausible. DCBob Jan 2012 #26
Wall Street Journal has different delegate totals SaintPete Jan 2012 #36
I got my numbers from AP Pab Sungenis Jan 2012 #44
Very cogent analysis n/t schmice Jan 2012 #45
Third party, third party, third party!!! Myrina Jan 2012 #8
I really wish we had the elephant and they had the donkey oberliner Jan 2012 #9
I know, right? the reputation for long memory MadLinguist Jan 2012 #29
Nahh, elephants can't be domesticated (trained, but not domesticated) Bucky Jan 2012 #41
that's the way Newt likes his conventions Enrique Jan 2012 #11
Battle of the Richies and Stupids, Reality TV award wordpix Jan 2012 #12
Th fight of the century. Lint Head Jan 2012 #13
The delegates are proportional The Wizard Jan 2012 #14
Mr Wizard is correct... ewagner Jan 2012 #15
Mr Wizard is Dead Wrong denem Jan 2012 #19
Why not? The GOP electorate has been fickle, hopping from candidate to candidate already. Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #30
Respectfully disagree denem... ewagner Jan 2012 #31
Paterno is dead The Wizard Jan 2012 #35
7 Days in May n/t schmice Jan 2012 #46
Jeb Bush? sulphurdunn Jan 2012 #16
Did you notice he refused to endorse ewagner Jan 2012 #34
I doubt he'll be sulphurdunn Jan 2012 #39
Eh, this prospect is raised every election. Always disappoints. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #17
I don't think it will happen either, but this will be the closest they've come in a long time. nt onehandle Jan 2012 #18
Closer than we came in 2008? Ter Jan 2012 #47
Yet to be seen, but I said 'They.' onehandle Jan 2012 #51
'A Shiny Newcomer' foisted on hot and angrys by the Establishment? denem Jan 2012 #20
I've upgraded it to "possible, but still unlikely." sofa king Jan 2012 #24
Since 1952. former9thward Jan 2012 #37
Yes, but in 1968... JackRiddler Jan 2012 #48
You are correct. former9thward Jan 2012 #50
Really now? So this means Humphrey would have been forced through... JackRiddler Jan 2012 #53
Johnson, while unpopular, still had control over the party machinery. former9thward Jan 2012 #54
but every year they don't change from winner take all to proportional primaries grantcart Jan 2012 #42
Mayem for them, Victory for us Mosaic Jan 2012 #21
Right. WATCH them digging their hole! elleng Jan 2012 #22
This is what Adelson paid for...a brokered convention. nt wiggs Jan 2012 #23
Michael Steele??? WTF would he know about it? The man is as dense as a post. yellowcanine Jan 2012 #28
Brokered convention? I smell a rat........... wandy Jan 2012 #32
oooooo, start popping the popcorn! n/t TygrBright Jan 2012 #33
Because watching clowns hit each other with foam bats is fun and entertaining!!!! Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #38
It'll never happen. First off, brokering a nominee requires the ability to compromise. Bucky Jan 2012 #40
That's how we ended up with Warren Harding... nt MADem Jan 2012 #43
The conditions they need are for 3 or more candidates to karynnj Jan 2012 #52
IF THERE IS MAYHEM IN THE PARTY OF GREED...... Left Coast2020 Jan 2012 #55
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